Thread: Absolutely amazing painter!

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

LOLOLOLOL. Its funny, because he will start doing something abstract and then brush over it 5 more times to make it a solid line. This is not art. he is constantly checking himself and painting over gut instinct brushes, but never going anywhere with it. I have seen Japanese painters like this, but who put a lot more thought into it and much much more dramatic and a much much more dramatic effect, but still making it whimsy and minimalist which this guy is obviously going for, but completely failing at it as he is often even distracted by the pain he gets on himself. The environment is all wrong, and he is making sloppy judgments and the strokes of a 2 year old who has an understanding of basic geometry.

Its amazing though how much shitty art gets noticed and sold these days when so little artistic value can be found in it. This kind of art is obviously suited for this kind of shitty video format and an audience while doing it along with a shitty ass song and a shitty ass painter who is just a shitty ass circus act.

Incredible anyone would post this here other than laughs. I am almost offended by this. I have been in art school for almost all my childhood life, and everyone on my moms side was very very artistic. You ain't seen weird till you've met an artist, let me tell you.

In this post lies all of the absolute worst character aspects of being an "educated artist."

The very first thing they should have told you, in your childhood lifetime of art, is to respect the subjectivity of it. The speed and unorthodoxy that the guy did the painting in, alone, should lead you not to expect some meticulously detailed masterpiece. But to say that what he did was "not art" is just asinine.

Now, I will submit that he seemed a bit arrogant in the way he was jumping around and putting on such a show, but that is his technique, and I found it entertaining. I really liked the negative space image of the firefighter, even before he began coloring it in. Someone that has just recently picked up their first brush wouldn't know a thing about negative space but - even jumping around wildly as he did - this guy pulled it off nicely.

The problem with getting an "education" in something like the arts is that, once your standards are set to a certain level, anything that doesn't live up to the standards your university taught you is immediately trash (we'll call it "my daddy can beat up your daddy syndrome"). I've taken very few art classes to date, but I'm pretty confident that some of my work is better than many "educated artists" out there. Do I have the right to call their work trash, because they can't compete with me, or is my art trash because I'm not yet familiar with all of the formal art concepts that one might learn in school (yet)?

Anyway. Interesting show. Great song (Hero). Cool technique. And the final product - while not the most impressive thing I've ever seen - is definitely respectable, IMHO.

of course its all subjective, but I know for a fact, that this is just a money making gimmick the guy is doing. Art school is about teaching you how to find you're style and you're way of doing art (making it you're own) and this guy did not exemplify that trait at all, and somehow people are attracted to that, because they aren't interested in you're life! But some people are...the few.

I didn't learn anything from his art other than: bad art is all over the place and racking in money somehow, because people are too lazy to really look at its artistic value, and it does very. If you can't deny it. Its all built upon trends and cliches as are most of the shitty ass movies we watch these days. Times are changing and people are getting stupid. We didn't have bad movies back in the old days.

Get anyone on this forum who has been in art school and is passionate about learning technique and they will tell you this isn't art.

and are these people qualified? yeah, and a whole lot more than any of you.

P.S: that isn't music he is painting too, its patriotic brittney spears shit.

Haaa, super cheeseball! That made me laugh. But kinda cool the way everything came together. I did enjoy that. Thanks Clairity.

Originally Posted by kichu

Thanks Clairity.

You're welcome.

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and are these people qualified? yeah, and a whole lot more than any of you.

Just because someone has been to art school doesn't make them more qualified to judge art than everyone else. At least, not inherently. It gives them tools to make that art, but if it's subjective and meant to inspire emotion and depth, than it was painted for the appreciaters of art to evaluate, not for other artists to evaluate.

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

of course its all subjective, but I know for a fact, that this is just a money making gimmick the guy is doing.

That is actually an assumption. And so what if he is making money off of it? I don't really see your point.

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

Art school is about teaching you how to find you're style and you're way of doing art (making it you're own) and this guy did not exemplify that trait at all, and somehow people are attracted to that, because they aren't interested in you're life! But some people are...the few.

I've been a student of the Art Institute of Pittsburgh for a little over a year now. I'm well aware of what arts school is about. The second half of your paragraph is a bit of a contradiction. I, for one, have never seen an artist use the method this guy used. Of course, his style is obviously not "refined," but it is his style. Maybe you should expand on the "not interested in you're life" tangent you threw in there, because you kind of lost me on that one.

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

I didn't learn anything from his art other than: bad art is all over the place and racking in money somehow, because people are too lazy to really look at its artistic value, and it does very.

Its "artistic value" that you so objectively attempt to touch upon is your perception of artistic value. You are confusing the concepts of edgy/technical/insightful art with art itself. Perhaps you should tell me your arbitrary definition of the word "art" so I can better understand where you are coming from because, in any objective point of view, what this guy did was art. Whether it was "good" or "bad" art is another thing entirely.

If someone who has very little artistic talent actually takes a stab at painting and makes something halfway decent, it's art. Period. Whether or not it's up to your standards and utilizes established artistic concepts is, again, another thing entirely.

Jimi Hendrix never had an official music lesson in his life. Does that mean he's unqualified to talk about musical value or quality?

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

If you can't deny it. Its all built upon trends and cliches as are most of the shitty ass movies we watch these days. Times are changing and people are getting stupid. We didn't have bad movies back in the old days.

You are confusing your disdain for the subject matter with whether or not what is being done is art or not. Don't. I'm sick of artists charging their thousands for "abstract art" that is just paint slung at a canvas with no sense of form or thought whatsoever, but there is an audience for it, and whether any of us want to admit it or not, it's art.

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

Get anyone on this forum who has been in art school and is passionate about learning technique and they will tell you this isn't art.

I go to art school and I'm passionate about learning technique. I still think what he did is art. Is it "fine (or 'refined') art"? Not in my opinion. But it's art.

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

and are these people qualified? yeah, and a whole lot more than any of you.

Wow. What an arrogant assumption - that anyone who has been to art school would not appreciate this as art.

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

P.S: that isn't music he is painting too, its patriotic brittney spears shit.

There were actually two songs that played during the painting (though I doubt you had the attention span to watch the whole thing). The second one wasn't a patriotic song, and neither of them had anything to do with Britney Spears.

O, will you marry me?

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

O, will you marry me?

Haha. Nah..I don't swing that way...


....but how big a diamond are we talking about, here?

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Bleh, looks like a strawberry...

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Edit: Dammit! Didn't work.

No homo

haha, I like your sig, Kushna Mufeed

I don't think art has to be as complicated as so many "elitists" make it out to be. Elitists say what they say cause they want to believe that all their schooling wasn't a waste, and I don't blame them....if you put years and years of hard work into studying something, you'd be mad if someone discredited your educated opinion, right?

But at the same time, anyone can appreciate art