Thread: Do you beleive in aliens?

Life on other planets? I'm absolutely certain of it. That they visit here is another question, which I guess I have a somewhat open mind about.

The problem of interstellar travel is quite an obstacle to any alien race ever coming into contact with another. I imagine there are perhaps millions of worlds with intelligent life on them, each too far away from its nearest neighbor to ever hope to visit.

Although we're probably "not alone," we may just be far enough away that no one would ever be able to visit. Of course they'd have to want to as well.

One of my all time favourtie Sagan clips of him using the Drake equation to furhter support that life on other planets exsists.






I saw a U.F.O. onece. Doesn't mean it was anything extra terrestrial but i just couldn't simply identify it. It was in mid day 2 summers ago while i was practicing baseball that i saw a huge silver saucer shaped thing in the sky it stood out beacsue the suns rays reflecting off of it made it vey easy to find. I looked at it questioning it's exsistances and rubbing my eyes because i never scence anything remotely close to it before. As i starred at it it started moving rapidly from left to right, i looked away because i thought it was somehing wrong in my vision even though i have perfect eyesight. I looked up again about 10 seconds later and it was at a standstill again, then it just simply disappered.

I hollered to the 3rd baseman on the team, "Did you see that!?!?!" he of course had no clue what i was talking about. No one else did either when i brought it up in the clubhouse after practice. They all thought i was on some sort of drug.

But anyways to answear your question. I would ask the ailen if he had some sort of knowledge/evidence on how the universe was created.

Do you know how far away Andromeda (the nearest galaxy to us) is?

2,500,000 light years away.

A light year is around 6,000,000,000,000 miles.

So together it is: 1,500,000,000,000,000,000 miles away. And that's if you can travel at the speed of light. Which is impossible. Not just really really hard to do impossible. Against the laws of the universe impossible.

Yes that may be the nearest galaxy you argue, but what about the nearest planet?

That's 10.5 light years away. Still a colossal distance. As well as that the planet is gaseous so no life as we know it could form on it.

However, as to whether there is any other life out there in the universe? That's a mathematical certainty due to the size of the universe. So yes there is life, but none that has visited us.

yeah i believe in life on other planets, but we arent ever going to meet any other life.

Originally Posted by Goldney

And that's if you can travel at the speed of light. Which is impossible. Not just really really hard to do impossible. Against the laws of the universe impossible.

Unless you consider the possibility of wormholes.

We also can't try to relate our own scientific prowess with those of extra-terrestrials. Many of their (possible) civilizations of more than likely existed for even millions of years before ours was even formed. Should this be the case, their technology could be so far beyond our wildest dreams that to count out the possibility of their having, long since, discovered how to utilize wormholes would be pretty premature.

I doubt there is any other life forms in OUR solar system, because the other planets are either way too cold or way too hot, but I am very certain that there are many other planets similar to Earth in other solar systems in our universe.
I can't imagine that the only planet in out entire universe with life on it is Earth. Unfortunately, these other planets are so far away from us, we won't ever be able to even prove their existance, much less explore them.

Originally Posted by hankwheels

Unfortunately, these other planets are so far away from us, we won't ever be able to even prove their existance, much less explore them.

Well, the good thing is that we are already proving the existences of planets that are just like Earth, outside our solar system. Unfortunately, though, you're right about exploring them being much more complicated.

On the flip side, even many scientists have said (as I've believed all along) that we can't base every prerequisite for "life" on our own standards of "what life requires." It's more than reasonable to assume that many types of extra-terrestrials (should they exist) can survive in many different elements that we, Earthlings, could not, just as many types of Earth creatures can survive in elements that many other Earth creatures cannot - extreme heat and cold just being but a few of these elements.

I think it's a good possibility.

I think they exist too. Just because of the fact that our galaxy is HUGE. And universe is IMPOSSIBLY bigger. so, if in one galaxy there's one planet called Earth and there's life on it. Imagine how many galaxies like that exist in the universe. we don't even know yet if we're alone in OUR galaxy.

No, I do not.

Extraterrestrial life is still quite possible within our solar system, though it most definately wouldn't be sentient. The best candidates would be the moons of the outer planets, many of which are speculated to contain huge quantities of ice or even vast oceans. Hell, even Mars might still harbor life, extinct or otherwise.

I believe in illegal aliens.

Omg Pyro, that fantasy football pic is hilarious!


Oh yeah, the thread... I think there is an overwhelming possibility of life elsewhere in the Universe. Like Oneironaut said, there could be life like ours thats existed for a GOOGOL of years. Look how far we've come in a hundred years. Now ad 100 to the power of 99 . Thats how much more advanced the civilization would be. :0..

Like Oneironaut said, there could be life like ours thats existed for a GOGLE of years.

the universe hasn't been around for that long. and spell it right, googol.

I did

And you dont know how long the UV has been around "BUB"

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*Screams like little girl and stomps feet*

Given the size of our universe, I am sure there are other life forms out there (like someone else mentioned). At the same time, I'm quite sure that the government isn't hiding any green creatures.

My astronomy professor pointed out that if there is life somewhere out there (beyond our solar system of course), it very well may be that it doesn't resemble any sort of animal that we have on earth. It might be so far removed from what we can even imagine...

can someone explain why exactly it is supposed to be impossible to travel faster then light?

I mean we can go faster then sound, ok you now can't hear what's outside, so why can't ships simply go faster then the set speed off light, and just not see any light until they slow down?

Also why do people say going faster then light would result in time travel? So when you go really fast you age slower or something? They seem to mean say one year traveling at light speed means thousands of years on earth, so when you get back after two years if light speed the earth has changed loads. Why is this?

Originally Posted by cuddleyperson

can someone explain why exactly it is supposed to be impossible to travel faster then light?

Also why do people say going faster then light would result in time travel?

Why is this?

The answers are pretty academic at this point, but deserve some reading. I highly suggest Hawking's A Brief History of Time for explanations that are easy to understand.

I do not "believe" in anything. I will give the possibility for anything and know that somethings are systematically observable (ie. gravity).

In other words, I think there is a possibility that there is no aliens, but I have no reason to think that there are alien life forms outside of Earth other than mudane and exaggerated reports of NASA.

Unforunately, claiming to have seen something is not convincing enough for any other person to believe in your perceptions as facticity.

If I say, "I saw a pink elephant in my room" or, better yet, "I see a pink elephant in my room, right now. Therefore, pink elephants exist" would you believe that pink elephants exist?

It is when you can justify theories rather than explain theories that make them cogent.

What do you think...?

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I think that more and more reports of UFO's are surfacing over time. If 1 million people saw a pink elephant would it exist? no. But you would have to question everything that just happend.

But military officials have reported alien sightings, even neil armstrong said he did, they would have no reason to say that, one person says pink elephants exist no one beleives but if 1mil people saw it there would be a possible existence.

Originally Posted by Dreamhope11

But military officials have reported alien sightings, even neil armstrong said he did, they would have no reason to say that, one person says pink elephants exist no one beleives but if 1mil people saw it there would be a possible existence.

You are touching base on the God delusion.

Of course, if I said I was Napolean and tried to act like him; everyone would think I was mad. However, if everyone soon believed that I was, reinforced it, and told others; then that mass of people would then be sharing the madness.

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