DV Discussion - Poll

**O'nus** · 12-03-2007 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Alright, we just had a fair example of what dicussions like this can develop into. When I first picked the problems with Christianity, I meant exactly what O'nus described. At least in Brazil, where like 90% of the population is Christian, we deal with many problems, either concerning christian morals and the law, marriage, abortion and so on. When you talk to someone here, he/she immediatelly assumes you are a christian aswell, thus leading to many problems concerning morals etc. For you to have an idea, there was this interview with a somehow famous doctor to talk about him beign atheist while dealing with so many terminal cases.

I am willign to discuss such matters because I know how to behave in such a discussion. But some people don't. So, let's all go for dodging topics like these.

Exactly, and that's what makes me sad. I meant no harm at all and just wanted to say that we should able to discuss things civily. Unfortunately, even the mentioning of a topic idea can be upsetting; such as "problems with christianity" can easily be discussed by a group consisting of only adament Christians. It does not mean it is discussing for or against Christianity. I think Gestalt agree's but, as I said, we are all usually a bit skeptical to peoples true intentions. Hopefully, once they are made clear, we can continue on a good discussion.

O'nus, I like the psychological interpretation of dreams, I find it really constructive. But sometimes I just think to myself if it isn't overrated. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Yup, exactly. Sometimes it is just as simple as that and other times the human mind tends to add so much more. (Note; I like that quote of Freuds)
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**Kromoh** · 12-03-2007 04:01 PM

Yeah you seem to get what I mean. Sometimes I see people going to a psychologist imagining he/she will solve all the problems there are, including a new diet, ideas for your writing piece at school, the solution for world hunger and so on. Sometimes just explaining simple things as simple is really complex.

Freud for example: made an awesome discovery, the subconscious thoughts. The way he used this to explain things is what bothers me. It's like, this very post by me means I have an inner sexual insecurity. The Edipus complex has a true basis, but it isn't directed always to the parents, actually not even only one person.

The id is also something made out of creativity: there's no such thign as death and life pulses. Nor is human emotion limited to pain and pleasure - it is a multidimensional complex that is just impossible to describe. You can always make a new emotion byt combining two others, and many others if you change the proportion.

The superego is also true, but it isn't a whole new layer of the human mind. It is just the internalisation of the inhibitions. Another something a person will think of before acting (if conscious).

Enough fleshing out.

**Xox** · 12-03-2007 04:36 PM

O'nus, if you ever have the time, I would love it if we discussed fundamental psychology.

If I am not mistaken you have been studying Psychology? I want to be a psychologist, and I've read up on it a bit. I really want to get to know more about it before I major it later on.

**O'nus** · 12-05-2007 08:08 PM

So far it is looking like a discussion on lucid dreaming. I will wait a little longer and then perhaps consider making a new poll for lucid dream discussion topics.

What do you think...?
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**Identity X** · 12-06-2007 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by O'nus

The O'nus technique

Oh, sorry, I forgot... you're not an egotist.

**O'nus** · 12-06-2007 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Identity X

Oh, sorry, I forgot... you're not an egotist.

Fair enough, I just don't know what to call it.

"Environmental Recognition and Conditioning Technique" or, via the common acronym method, ERCT. Hrm... just throw an e in there... Erect method. Sounds awesome.

What do you think...?
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**Carôusoul** · 12-06-2007 02:21 PM

Existentialism Is A Humanism.

Naooooo!

**O'nus** · 12-06-2007 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Existentialism Is A Humanism.

Naooooo!

I like to consider myself a Humanistic Existentialism.

Is that a bad thing? lol
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**Carôusoul** · 12-06-2007 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by O'nus

I like to consider myself a Humanistic Existentialism.

Is that a bad thing? lol
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Wha?

I was reffering to the name of Sartre's lecture.

**O'nus** · 12-06-2007 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Wha?

I was reffering to the name of Sartre's lecture.

Well spank my ass and call me charlie, you did. I am writing an essay on Sartre right now and somehow missed that; now I really feel dumb.

lol..

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**Carôusoul** · 12-06-2007 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by O'nus

Well spank my ass and call me charlie, you did. I am writing an essay on Sartre right now and somehow missed that; now I really feel dumb.

lol..

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Spanked.

**O'nus** · 12-06-2007 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Spanked.

What's my name?!
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**O'nus** · 12-06-2007 04:05 PM

I will give this poll till the 10th and make a decision then on what discussion seems most appropriate. Of course, the subsequent voted topics will likely just be held at different times later on..
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**Kromoh** · 12-06-2007 05:52 PM

gogo fundamental psychology

DDD

btw love your xmas avatar, O'nus

**O'nus** · 12-10-2007 02:07 PM

Okay, votes are in. Existentialism tied with fundamental psychology. I think we could probably integrate the two, actually.

How does Dec. 22, the Saturday, sound to everyone?
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**Xox** · 12-10-2007 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by O'nus

Okay, votes are in. Existentialism tied with fundamental psychology. I think we could probably integrate the two, actually.

How does Dec. 22, the Saturday, sound to everyone?
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Nooo

Can we somehow do it on a earlier date?

**O'nus** · 12-10-2007 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Xox

Nooo

Can we somehow do it on a earlier date?

Any suggested date..?
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**Carôusoul** · 12-10-2007 02:24 PM

Thats the day before I depart to investigate headless horsemen and vampires. Awesome.

I'm ok with that.

**Xox** · 12-10-2007 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by O'nus

Any suggested date..?
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Whatever suites you, as long as it's earlier. How about this Saturday?

**O'nus** · 12-10-2007 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Xox

Whatever suites you, as long as it's earlier. How about this Saturday?

After reviewing my schedule, the 22nd is actually the next available time I have for discussion of decent length. Perhaps a later time...? Sometime after new years, perhaps?
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**Carôusoul** · 12-10-2007 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Xox

Whatever suites you, as long as it's earlier. How about this Saturday?

I'd have trouble with this saturday; can you manage the friday the 21st?

**Xox** · 12-10-2007 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Thats the day before I depart to investigate headless horsemen and vampires. Awesome.

I'm ok with that.

Vampires? Where?

Originally Posted by O'nus

After reviewing my schedule, the 22nd is actually the next available time I have for discussion of decent length. Perhaps a later time...? Sometime after new years, perhaps?
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Well then you can do it on pretty much on any date after new years, fine with me.

Edit: Well actually you don't really need to change it for me. You can go ahead and do it on the 22nd, maybe I can shift around my schedule for it.

**O'nus** · 12-10-2007 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Xox

Vampires? Where?

Well then you can do it on pretty much on any date after new years, fine with me.

Edit: Well actually you don't really need to change it for me. You can go ahead and do it on the 22nd, maybe I can shift around my schedule for it.

Okay cool, we'll keep it for the 22nd then and perhaps have a different discussion in the first week of January?
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**Xox** · 12-10-2007 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by O'nus

Okay cool, we'll keep it for the 22nd then and perhaps have a different discussion in the first week of January?
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Perfect, what are we going to do first? I really don't want to miss out on the psychology, but I can manage my schedule if that happens on the 22nd.

**O'nus** · 12-10-2007 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Xox

Perfect, what are we going to do first? I really don't want to miss out on the psychology, but I can manage my schedule if that happens on the 22nd.

I was thinking that existentialism would be fun to do first. Of course, some psychology will be incorporated, but the fundamentals can be left for another time.

Sound good? I'll make a confirmation post later this evening.
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