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      torque the cork

      Just wondering what y'all think about the rubber corks in wine bottles that you see more and more of now, as opposed to the ones make from real cork.

      What I've heard is that you reduce the chances of a wine becoming 'corked' (when that fungus gets in the wine because the cork dries out and cracks, exposing the wine to stinky spores). But conservative oenophiles believe that the real cork imparts flavours or nuances to the wine, that are ommitted when you use rubber.

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      Sorry, what were you saying?
      Your avatar horrified me to the depths of my soul so I lost track of the thread...

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      maybe I'm an uncultured oaf, but I like the scew-top bottles....
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      I wouldn't even mind drinking a corked wine...

      Wood is good!

      ps. you said ass!, left us in a ruckus.
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      Either one, it doesn't matter to me. The only cool thing about the rubber ones is that you don't have to store it sideways. If you store a real cork wine bottle sideways, it will never get corked though....

      Plus, the good wines still have real corks because they are so old. So... maybe I like real corks better? At least for the next couple years.

      I don't like wine though...

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      ohhhhhhhh in chat?! haha, I couldn't see any text, so I was testing it and got frustrated when it didn't work

      twas the chat that I called an ass, not y'all.. sorry for all the ruckus

      I definitely see the benefits in not having to store wine sideways at a twatever-degree-angle and other such nonsense
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      Your title made me laugh!
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      Well I least I don't destroy the rubber ones like I do the cork ones, and have little crumbs in the bottle.

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      I only have seen the rubber ones you don't see the wooden ones very often anymore. But I think rubber has a few more advantages.

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      Weren't the cork ones destroying forests somewhere?

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      The problem with the rubber ones, are that they are impossible to get out/in, in some cases. Anything else, nah.

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      If people are really afraid of having a very miniscule taste abberation due to rubber corks, wouldn't they prefer that than having fungus in their wine? Maybe it's just me.

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      Everybody enjoys a bit of fungus now and then.

      If you don't let it be known, that you are a shroom hater.

      I see only reason to go rubber, is not for sanitisation (feet taste good), but for those that can't remove a cork, without getting wood in their wine.

      Treat your bottles of wine, like beautiful women.

      Keep those corks. They'll come in handy one day.
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      Lol I must have some mad skills cuz I can get the rubber ones out pretty easy.

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      Yea I can get the rubber ones out easier than the cork.

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      Actually I find the rubber ones harder to remove with the folding cork screws, but easier with the fancier ones.

      And I laugh everytime one of y'all says "rubber"

      can't help it

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      WTF...cork, rubber, plastic, latex... will it have any effect on my chances of nailing the chick after 3 glasses of Pino Grigio or Malbec if we're drinking out of a bottle corked with rubber?

      Cork of the 21st century:

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      A blocked memory of mine has resurfaced due to this thread: I remember when I was in like 6th grade, some guys threw something at me and said it was a "bag of rubbers". When I looked inside, there were little sample cubes of differetn colored rubber, labeled with the type of rubber they were or where they came from or something.

      Rubber comes from trees too I think. Maybe you don't have to destroy the tree to get it out.

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      i prefer the wine that doesn't taste like rubbing alcohol that's been sitting in the same room as grapes for 3 years... outside of that, i don't have the pallet nor the opinion.
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      It's actually a bad thing for the flavor of the cork to get in to the wine, although they do allow the wine to age properly by allowing it to breath out but not in.

      A lot of wine producers are actually using twist off plastic tops now. Wine trends are changing so that its being made largely to be consumed within a few years instead of old practices of producing aged wine. The plastic tops keep the wine from being contaminated better and are cheaper to produce. A lot of New Zealand and Californian vintages are using plastic tops now.

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      I've heard the stuff in the box keeps pretty well too. That takes too long to drink unless you're having a party tho.

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      Natural cork closures have a centuries-long heritage; however, they allow for a bottle of wine to be “corked” as the saying goes. A corked bottle has a musty smell and taste that stems from TCA (2,4,6-Trichloroanisole) - a substance used to sanitize the natural cork prior to bottling. The result is a flat, moldy flavor devoid of fruit-filled taste and aroma. It is estimated that about 5-10% of wines available on merchants' shelves are corked. Synthetic corks, derived from plastic, appeared to be a viable alternative to traditional corks. However, their track record has been tarnished due to their inability to keep oxidation at bay for any real length of time, significantly decreasing the shelf life of a wine and short-changing the maturing process of select wines.

      Apparently, screw caps are just as good a method of keeping a bottle as corks, as corks were from a time when no-one could think of any other way to keep wine in the bottle.

      According to About.com, Screw caps provide the best seal for bottled wines, and eliminate the “corked” and oxidation problems in one fell swoop. There was a 30 month study done by Hogue Cellars comparing natural and synthetic cork closures with screw caps, and their findings suggest significant benefits in utilizing screw caps over natural and synthetic cork closures. While screw caps do diminish the drama and romance of bottle opening, it is well worth the sacrifice to ensure a taint-free wine that offers consistent aging, maintained flavor and freshness with optimum quality control.

      Personally, I've got no problems with screw caps. Though you can't forget to let it breathe.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lomebririon View Post
      Personally, I've got no problems with screw caps.
      Me either. So Tickle Pink and Mad Dog are fine wines, after all! I always thought so.

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      Wow Lome, you really know your stuff.

      I actually got kinda turned on when you said "Trichloroanisole". You need to record yourself saying that with an accent and send it to me

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      I decided I hate wooden corks, not only do they break up into pieces when you first take them out. If you are already drunk and have the cork half way out and try to pull it it breaks in half what kind of BS is this? I am sticking with the rubber cork from now on.

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