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      Wives, girlfriends, husbands, boyfriends, girlsfriend girlfriend boyfriend husband and everyone else.
      What do you think is inappropriate in your relation ship as far as, " look but don't touch"?

      I never view anything over the net. possibly I am too preoccupied. I don't buy any playboys or porn of any kind.
      I do however gander through my wife's Victoria's Secret catalogs, seeing as she gets 100 of them a week.
      My wife does not have a problem with that.

      I have been in contact with friends from opposite outlooks.
      - My one friend could not even watch some TV shows that had sexy woman in them (Whipped)

      -Another friend had his wife turn the pages of a swank magazine while they were....well you know.

      I think both are too extreme. I am happy in the middle. Or maybe too conservative.

      I don't. What do you guys/gals think?

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      I think there's a harmless look, then there's obsessive. By harmless look I don't mean perv over another person, I mean if there's a show with a "sexy girl" on then you can still watch it, just don't be over the top.

      I think if you're with some one then you shouldn't look at porn unless your other half allows it as its sort of unfaithful in a way.

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      I think the mark of a true, trusting relationship is when a person is never once paranoid about things like, "are you looking at that man, why have you got magazines like that" yada-ya.

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      I generally point out a hot guy before my fiance does. We just don&#39;t care much. As for porn - said bye bye to that in high shcool.
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      From most girls point of view, having their guy viewing porn is like telling saying they&#39;re not attractive enough. Now before you jump down my throat, this is not my perspective, and I know this is not the case from the guy&#39;s point of view, but that&#39;s how a lot of women think of it. Oh, you&#39;re looking at all these hot naked women, what&#39;s wrong with me? Am I not good enough? It&#39;s just a difference in thinking with men and women.

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      Personally I&#39;ve no problem with my boyfriend looking at porn or even other women in person. Maybe this is because I&#39;m bisexual and I comment on how hot girls are more than him but meh... I like to leave these things open.

      I don&#39;t need reassurance that he&#39;ll stay with me no matter how many other women he sees. I know he finds me beautiful and that it won&#39;t change.

      I guess we have a pretty damn honest and open relationship in that sense... but it works. It&#39;s really stable.
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      This is a good question.

      I&#39;m speaking more from theory here than practice, given my lack of experience with long-term relationships, BUT... I tend to be easily jealous, and I&#39;d have a bit of a problem with my partner voicing her attraction to other people I *know*. But, in terms of voicing her attraction to/appreciation of men neither of us know, like random people or celebrities... If I was secure in a relationship I wouldn&#39;t have a problem with it. I think I&#39;d apply the same criteria to my side of things. However, if I was going out with a bisexual female, then I have no problem with her voicing attraction to people we both know. I&#39;d be uncomfortable going further than that though, but, it would be NICE to have a bisexual partner who could appreciate the female form in the same way that I do.

      Does that make sense? Meh.

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      Yaaaa. I guess trust is a big factor.
      IMO it is obvious (to me at least) When I know a guy would be attractive to a female. Although I am not, it is not hard to tell. Just as she would most likely be able to perceive certain woman that are attractive.
      Having said that, I think it would be disrespectful to be pointing it out to your partner. Regardless of stability.

      I think it is natural to feel jealousy to a point. After all, you are "with" that person. Anything that would be perceived to threaten that would cause jealousy.

      The more I realize that saying, "You have to love yourself before you can truly love someone else."
      Maybe this is where the unhealthy jealously spawns from.

      I know cocky guys who SHOULD be jealous.
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      Having said that, I think it would be disrespectful to be pointing it out to your partner. Regardless of stability. [/b]
      <span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">I have to say, I fully disagree. Beauty is something which should be respected on a regular basis. It&#39;s only human to find things appealing.

      I can admire a painting and admire my partner&#39;s painting aswell and it won&#39;t be disrespectful. It&#39;s simply opening one&#39;s own mind to different styles and imagery.

      I&#39;d find it extremely disrespectful were I to tell my boyfriend how much I&#39;d like to be intimate with someone else because of the physical appeal, but that is a different story because I&#39;m actively thinking about engaging myself in something. Just physical admiring is far different from actual activity and as long as the two are distinguished and it&#39;s just admiration from a completely stillstand position... there&#39;s no problem.

      I find that, no offense, if one can&#39;t accept that one&#39;s partner will inevitably also find other people attractive, it&#39;s not a very truthful stance. No matter how down-to-earth monagamous and loyal one is it&#39;s impossible not to. That is far more instinctual and human than jealousy as we are geared in every cell of our body torwards reproduction.

      If it is an inherent truth that one should be attracted, one should be able to share it. Cooping it up and not sharing it with the one closest to you is worse then feeling a twinge of jealousy or hurt when another person is mentioned.</span>
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      First and foremost, it would depend on how solid my relationship is with the girl. There are women out there who could acknowledge that our (hypothetical) neighbor is really attractive, but I would never have to worry about them acting upon it. There are also women who could acknowledge that our neighbor is really attractive, and I would be justified in wondering if she would ever act upon it. (I&#39;ve had more than enough experience with the latter to not feel a bit of insecurity.)

      Aside from that, assuming I was with a woman I completely trusted (which I haven&#39;t had the pleasure of, yet ) then I would have no problem with it, seeing as how I&#39;m the kind of guy that could admire another woman&#39;s beauty and not even think about jeopardizing our relationship by letting a fling with the other woman cross my mind.

      So, being that I&#39;m kind of cynical (at the moment) about a lot of the types of women I&#39;ve known, I&#39;d settle for hearing about how hot an intangible guy was, (celebrities, pornstars - and no, I could care less if my girlfriend watched porn, and I hope she&#39;d be mature enough to feel the same way) but I&#39;d have to be seriously impressed with how trustworthy she was, before I&#39;d be even the slightest bit comfortable with her going on about how gorgeous our neighbor and/or mutual friends were.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
      <span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">I have to say, I fully disagree. Beauty is something which should be respected on a regular basis. It&#39;s only human to find things appealing.

      I can admire a painting and admire my partner&#39;s painting aswell and it won&#39;t be disrespectful. It&#39;s simply opening one&#39;s own mind to different styles and imagery.

      I&#39;d find it extremely disrespectful were I to tell my boyfriend how much I&#39;d like to be intimate with someone else because of the physical appeal, but that is a different story because I&#39;m actively thinking about engaging myself in something. Just physical admiring is far different from actual activity and as long as the two are distinguished and it&#39;s just admiration from a completely stillstand position... there&#39;s no problem.

      I find that, no offense, if one can&#39;t accept that one&#39;s partner will inevitably also find other people attractive, it&#39;s not a very truthful stance. No matter how down-to-earth monagamous and loyal one is it&#39;s impossible not to. That is far more instinctual and human than jealousy as we are geared in every cell of our body torwards reproduction.

      If it is an inherent truth that one should be attracted, one should be able to share it. Cooping it up and not sharing it with the one closest to you is worse then feeling a twinge of jealousy or hurt when another person is mentioned.</span>[/b]

      I am at all not saying that beauty is not something to be admired or known.
      But if it is so apparent, I just don&#39;t see the need to have to point it out to your partner. Out of respect. Seeing is that she or he should be the one that you hold feelings towards.
      I do not think there is anything wrong in what you say. I just think it is a difference of opinion.

      Would it bother you if your partner felt as I did?



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      Quote Originally Posted by Howetzer View Post



      Would it bother you if your partner felt as I did?



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      <span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">I would find it a bit annoying and would have to adjust myself as I often comment on whom I find attractive. It would bother me a bit in that sense, yes. I&#39;d be able to adapt though.</span>
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      interesting topic...i don&#39;t have a problem with porn, as long as we can both watch it together. I don&#39;t mind him watching it on his own even.

      as for dirty magazines though, i might find that a bit weird if i found a stash of them. Not cos i&#39;d think he didn&#39;t find me unattractive, my question would be &#39;why couldn&#39;t you tell me about this&#39;? you know?

      He probably checks out other girls and i don&#39;t notice unless he points her out and says &#39;she&#39;s pretty&#39; but again, i don&#39;t get jealous, same as he doesn&#39;t if i see someone attractive and mention it.

      I think if your relationship is strong and stable, such things don&#39;t even come into the equation.
      Usually when things of this nature come up, it&#39;s usually masking something deeper going on in the relationship that needs sorting out...

      at least, that&#39;s my opinion


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      depends on the relationship... the person... yadda yadda.

      i find that if i&#39;m getting tail then i could care less about naked girls in a magazine. but once i don&#39;t have that outlet i release the jellyfish down the porthole so-to-speak. :mistergreen:

      i wouldn&#39;t consider it healthy in a relationship where it&#39;s being hidden from the other... if they accept it... then knock yourself out. it&#39;s all relative.
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      If a partner expects to control the other person&#39;s imagination they need to stop, take a deep breath, check where that insecurity lies, and leave it at the door. It is not wrong to check out the opposite sex, AT ALL. I would say, as long as you honor both parties&#39; personal bubbles, you&#39;re fine. Only social programming from religious, conservative parents or media would tell us otherwise. Personally, I wouldn&#39;t bother having a girlfriend that is so insecure of herself, that she thinks by me taking in a little eye candy somehow speaks ill of her.

      Humans are creatures of habit, yes, but too much of any one thing gets old. Period. Hell, I&#39;m sure even Brad Pitt gets tired of tapping Angelina Jolie, after a while. It&#39;s only natural. Everyone needs something to spice up their life. I&#39;m not talking about going to swapping parties, or cheating, but to limit your input on all fronts to only one person is pretty self-righteous and absurd, and to expect that of another party is, equally, if not more so.

      Don&#39;t get me wrong the big ol&#39; green jealousy bug is a nasty one when it bites, and no one is immune to it, but it simply isn&#39;t in our programming to be with only one person, so it&#39;s only natural to combat that normal urge through meaningless external means.


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      This is a very interesting subject indeed. I&#39;ve been married for almost 8 years PLUG----&#62;( Anniversary coming up in April). Im going to admit, I&#39;m a guy and when I see beauty I tend to glance in that direction, not in a sense that I want to sleep with that person but I guess it&#39;s just something that&#39;s inprinted on the Psyche&#39; If you see beauty you tend to stare and take it in. The Major difference is the fact that I don&#39;t dissrespect my wife with looking. We are very secure in our marriage, and there is no other woman that I would want to be with, but I love her and I respect her. So when Im with her, no one else is visible. I had a few porn taps that I kept in a Nike Box from my college years labled - S.I.N.(sex in nike) In big GOLD letters. All of my friends knew about SIN example.

      Friend - I NEED SIN AND I NEED SIN RIGHT NOW&#33;&#33;

      Me - (With a godfather voice)- You come to me asking for a favor and I&#39;ll make you an offer you can&#39;t refuse.

      And whenever the box was opened everyone had to make the AAHHHHH&#33;&#33; Sound as if you looking at something sacred. My SIN box was a one of a kind. So I decieded to keep it and pass down the legacy to my first born Son. Well, I had a beautiful little girl instead and I utimately had to trash the SIN box which my wife had been trying to get me to do the entire first 2 years of our marriage Pretty much all of my friends from college are now married, but they still call making jokes.

      Friend - Do you miss it?

      Me- Miss what?

      Friend - you know.... it

      Me- what are you talking about?

      Friend - S.I.N.

      Me- Haha Oh yeah S.I.N.

      Then there is silence on the phone and you can still here the Whailing guitars in the distant night and bad dialouge that only old school porn can deliever. Man did I go off topic, anyway I don&#39;t keep it in the house anymore. I guess we have a hidden mutual understanding my wife and I. She doesn&#39;t look at any guys even if I can tell that the guy is handsome. I never heard her for once say "He&#39;s a hot guy" Not even to me I wonder if Im a hot guy? LOL.. But we do have that understanding and it&#39;s mostly the trust that we have for one another that makes things that much more simplified. If Im in my office at home and She&#39;s watching Television, and she knows that Im crazy about Lucy Liu, she would come downstairs and tell me "your girlfriend is on T.V."
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      I would say rape is pretty much crossing the line.

      Besides that, it all relies on the circumstances and especially the person.
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      Ne-Yo, I&#39;m honestly surprised you managed to woo your wife with that shite sense of humor of yours...I guess you have a well paying job because she definitely didn&#39;t marry you for your keen sense of humor.

      Im sorry, but that was seriously the stupidest attempt at a joke I&#39;ve heard in a while. It was just a long drawn out steaming pile of &#39;waste-my-time&#39;. I can guarantee that absolutely no one cares about what you called your spank bank, let alone that vacuous, bolded, in italics, dialogue with no point, or punch line. It&#39;s not even remotely funny. Just stick to your day job. No joke...

      [Edit: Basically my point being, let&#39;s keep it on the original topic instead of dragging it down into senseless banter...]


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      Quote Originally Posted by SolSkye View Post
      Ne-Yo, I&#39;m honestly surprised you managed to woo your wife with that shite sense of humor of yours...I guess you have a well paying job because she definitely didn&#39;t marry you for your keen sense of humor.

      Im sorry, but that was seriously the stupidest attempt at a joke I&#39;ve heard in a while. It was just a long drawn out steaming pile of &#39;waste-my-time&#39;. I can guarantee that absolutely no one cares about what you called your spank bank, let alone that vacuous, bolded, in italics, dialogue with no point, or punch line. It&#39;s not even remotely funny. Just stick to your day job. No joke...
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      Asskicker without a clue

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      Quote Originally Posted by SolSkye;
      Oh, I&#39;m Sorry. I didn&#39;t mean to put down your boyfriend in front of you or anything. I guess in doing so, it would make you feel equally stupid by association. No worries there cool guy&#33;
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      Quote Originally Posted by SolSkye View Post
      Ne-Yo, I&#39;m honestly surprised you managed to woo your wife with that shite sense of humor of yours...I guess you have a well paying job because she definitely didn&#39;t marry you for your keen sense of humor.

      Im sorry, but that was seriously the stupidest attempt at a joke I&#39;ve heard in a while. It was just a long drawn out steaming pile of &#39;waste-my-time&#39;. I can guarantee that absolutely no one cares about what you called your spank bank, let alone that vacuous, bolded, in italics, dialogue with no point, or punch line. It&#39;s not even remotely funny. Just stick to your day job. No joke...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Identity View Post
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      Take a chill pill, mate.
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      I am chill. I just thought that long-winded post was pretty off-topic, and...well... stupid.

      Quote Originally Posted by Identity View Post
      I will give you another chance to think of something good. I mean, you talk about Ne-yo not being funny and then you post... this?
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      Nah, last time I did that someone *cough* couldn&#39;t handle it and made me remove it. Hey, now that I think of it, I believe it was in your preciously pointless thread. Oh well. Apparently, we gotta keep it kosher for the kiddies. But, it&#39;s ok, you really are cool enough for the both of us, so just keep on doing what you do...


      Seriously though, let&#39;s not jack Howie&#39;s thread any more than it already has been, by you fools. Weren&#39;t you the one implying there being too many mindless topics with links, then you choose to defend and incite something so utterly pathetic? Does it pay to be a walking contradiction? Pfftt...get real, son.



      And back on topic, A question for those people that feel that receiving external sensory input is wrong or offensive in some way; Could you elaborate as to why that is, exactly?


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      Quote Originally Posted by SolSkye View Post
      Hey, now that I think of it, I believe it was in your preciously pointless thread.
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      Oh wait a minute - no I don&#39;t

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