101 Drug Threads

[Rev. Pastora]

What do you think about a seperate, "second page" forum, for all the drug topics, away from the dream forums like Off Topic is? Get them all in one place, and out of the way of the sober dreaming threads?

Granted I'm new & not well known, but I'm pretty familiar with the subject & would be willing to help moderate it. As you could see from my posts, I don't reccomend drug use either, I just try, for the most part, to offer experienced advice to people that are already interested in the subject.

There is always the possibility that this could increase the number of drug topics. That would be counter productive.

[Kaniaz]

You mean another section for just drugs? Wouldn't really be that full, and as you said, it would create more of them really. We do apparently come up in searches for say, ganja smoking, but that may of gone now.

[Howie]

As moderatoers we could send them over into sensless banter.
Maybe thet would get the point across and get them out of the way so to speak. Unless it somhow related to dreaming or a corresponding post.

[Kaniaz]

Howetzer, they don't merit senseless banter at all...They deserve some forum so they can be recognized as a series discussion and not something you can go "LOL BOING" in.

[Rev. Pastora]

I wasn't aware of a drug section aside from Howetzer's tutorial. It just seems like there's a drug thread in near every department right now. I thought having a dedicated forum would give people a specific place to go ask questions, and keep people who are strictly interested in LDs from finding drug references in every forum they open.

I think it might make for a mental association between LDs and drugs for noobs the way it is now.

[Kaniaz]

So there about 14 threads, is it really worth it though?

[Howie]

Originally posted by Kaniaz
Howetzer, they don't merit senseless banter at all...They deserve some forum so they can be recognized as a series discussion and not something you can go \"LOL BOING\" in.

Most that I have read have been just the opposite of "a serious discussion". And that is why if the topic had any merit it would not be sent to senseless banter. However if you think 100 post warrents a new forum then I am lucrative. But I fear that the forum board is becoming overwheling to new users. To us we Know where everything is located, but to the users I have directed to the forum they express that concern. That may be a hole new problem in itself. So maybe I am not giving the drug catagory enough respect.
I think we cover the basics of legal drugs so why would we want to iniciate more disscussion about the topic?

[Howie]

Maybe combine it into the off topic dicussions? Or is that pretty much what you have been hinting towards

[Kaniaz]

Or just leave it? It's not a big deal at all. I've barely seen that many threads about it. I guess if it gets "worse", then you'd have my vote for something to be done. But making radical changes (like the addition of a new forum) in response to a bunch of topics...no point.

[Rev. Pastora]

You have all been here longer than me, so if this is the kind of thing that comes in waves & dissipates, that's cool. It just seemed like a lot of drug questions. I didn't remember there being this many when I first started lurking.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Rev. Pastora
You have all been here longer than me, so if this is the kind of thing that comes in waves & dissipates, that's cool. It just seemed like a lot of drug questions. I didn't remember there being this many when I first started lurking.

Me niether!!!. It seems as of late there has been an influx of drug related topics. Why? I don't know. There was your occasional marijuanna thread here and there. I understand your awarness of this Rev. Pastora.

[Seeker]

Guys, this is a Lucid dreaming forum, dedicated to all aspects of lucid dreaming. We do allow discussion on non-lucid dreaming as well as some of the fringe topics like OBE and such.

I am very much against creating any forum dedicated to drugs. If people want to discuss them, there are plenty of forums out there already in which they can do so.

It is not that I am against free speech, but we are NOT a drug forum. One of my biggest fears is that we will accumulate so many drug related posts that google will begin to rank us highly under it's drug categories.

Lucid dreaming already has a reputation as being somewhat New Age and occult, in fact recently we were ranked as Occult by a security package and some members could not get on. The last thing we need is to be classified as a drug site. That will do us personally no good and will cast yet another shadow on lucid dreaming in general.

[Rev. Pastora]

I wasn't thinking of a seperate forum for drugs so that the topics will flourish. I was thinking more like getting those topics off the main page, and giving people a specific place to ask about drugs. As it is now, almost any forum you open has a drug thread in it, further establishing a mental connection between drugs & dreaming. Having them seperated on the forum will help new dreamers keep them seperated in their minds.

The last thing we need is to be classified as a drug site. That will do us personally no good and will cast yet another shadow on lucid dreaming in general.[/b]

Exactly. That was the intention behind my suggestion. If you feel the best thing is to leave well enough alone for now, I certainly won't second guess you.

[Prometheus]

people that do psychadelics do it for the same reasons people do lucid dreaming and in many ways are the same type of people.. this relation is bound to show up in forums and honestly both have the same type of taboo, I bet the DEA would love to ban lucid dreaming aside from not being able to enforce it

if you can't deal with this fact cause of irrational fears propagated my DEA propaganda too bad there will probably always be a noticable amount of members that are also psychonauts

[vertical horizon]

I'm sorry but is it really necessary to do anything about the posts being discussed? It seems that Dream Views has covered anything that could possibly involve dreaming and drugs are one of them. Screw google and how the number of hits we might get. I thought the forum was for us to share with one another, to talk to one another, and make a special place where all of us are bonded by one common interest. Dreaming

[Rev. Pastora]

Drug stigma, personal issues aside, if there were this many polar bear threads, you would be inclined to consider a polar bear section, so the polar bears would know where to look, and the people who weren't interested in polar bears wouldn't be bothered.

Consider how well divided the other topics are. You can go straight to attainment, or control, or interpretation, but the drug threads are all over. Personally, the subject interests me, but I can hardly keep track of the threads the way they're spread out.

Despite my feelings on the subject, Seeker is right about how it affects the tone of the site. I don't like it, or think it's just, but he's right none the less.

[Kaniaz]

I think my post a page ago outlined quite well that there's no point making a big deal about it... Still, this forum is good at being prone to "google attacks". A search for 'antidisentablishentarism' (incorrect spelling) returns one result - a Dreamviews forum page. So yeah.

[Demerzel]

Originally posted by Kaniaz
I think my post a page ago outlined quite well that there's no point making a big deal about it... Still, this forum is good at being prone to \"google attacks\". A search for 'antidisentablishentarism' (incorrect spelling) returns one result - a Dreamviews forum page. So yeah.

heh, everybody go search for "girls in miniskirts" and hit "i'm feeling lucky"

anyway yea, no new section on drugs. hehheh.

[Joseph_Stalin]

The only time I find a discussion of drugs appropriate is say, if a user needs help if they're addicted, or something. Other times I just laugh at people saying that "LSD in god amonuts ip safe!!" or something idiotic like that.