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      Exclamation Is Astral Projection and OOB dangerous?

      After having what I thought was a genuine OOB experience I became very interested and exited about doing it again so I asked on a post about it. I was told that either I was crazy or that I should not attempt it again because it is dangerous because my "cord" could get severed leaving me in a coma or dead and there are spiritual forces out there that could harm me or even posses me. Two years later and not another experience since I am more steadfast in my faith than ever and don't feel that I would be harmed because I feel a certain amount of protection. But I am new at this so I want to know what others think again and maybe I will have some more insightful answers here. Is it dangerous? Will my "cord" be severed on accident? Can I be possessed in this way or harmed by evil entities?

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      I'm not so good in this stuff but it seems like I've asked a question somehow similar so if anyone can answer me at the same time than you...

      My mom told me that she had been told that if you do a OBE you could get stock out of your body. Is that true. So if someone could answer Shannyball and me that would be really nice
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      so far ive never heard of any one that got hurt? but i heard about some getting a little scared...hehe.... i have just recently began to try for an obe and ld again...i was trying for 6 months and had great progres.....but then i sarted to smoke the weed again!!!NOT GOOD FOR THE RECALL SKILLS!!! so i stopped again....two days later the recall came back so from now on i will only smoke the weed in dream world....hehe

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      Nope. Don't worry, you are fine. Everyone knows that the only way the cord gets severed is if you are already dead to begin with, not the other way around. You cannot die during an OBE--it is just a dream.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SleepyCookieDough View Post
      I'm not so good in this stuff but it seems like I've asked a question somehow similar so if anyone can answer me at the same time than you...

      My mom told me that she had been told that if you do a OBE you could get stock out of your body. Is that true. So if someone could answer Shannyball and me that would be really nice
      AP scares me because it means the material world view that science has taught, is very very wrong, and it means the old mystics were right - which is very very very scary. because they believed, unless you reach a higher state of being BEFORE death - you can wake up in the astral, dead and not realize it. and continue to live a dream life, even go to work, poop, pee, shower and never realize you were in an illusionary world. STILL GO TO WORK??? SCARY

      but, the whole get trapped outside of your body. you gotta ask yourself. who can spread this rumor? I mean, if you got trapped outside of your body, YOURE DEAD. You can't exactly come back and warn others "uh, I got trapped outside of my body"

      its kinda like the black pearl, if everyone who sees the black pearl dies, then whos spreading the stories??

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      Well, the way my mom said it, it sounded like someone knew someone that was trying OBEs and one day died for no reason during his sleep so the person assumed he died by staying stock out of his body and told someone that told my mom or some complicated shit like that. ANyways, Thank you for the answers.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Nope. Don't worry, you are fine. Everyone knows that the only way the cord gets severed is if you are already dead to begin with, not the other way around. You cannot die during an OBE--it is just a dream.

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      I'm not sure if I agree with the dream part... but I certainly agree you'll be quite safe.
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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      AP scares me because it means the material world view that science has taught, is very very wrong, and it means the old mystics were right - which is very very very scary. because they believed, unless you reach a higher state of being BEFORE death - you can wake up in the astral, dead and not realize it. and continue to live a dream life, even go to work, poop, pee, shower and never realize you were in an illusionary world. STILL GO TO WORK??? SCARY

      but, the whole get trapped outside of your body. you gotta ask yourself. who can spread this rumor? I mean, if you got trapped outside of your body, YOURE DEAD. You can't exactly come back and warn others "uh, I got trapped outside of my body"

      its kinda like the black pearl, if everyone who sees the black pearl dies, then whos spreading the stories??
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      There are some things to be wary of when Astrally Projecting, but you really don't have to worry about your "cord" being severed. There's a LOT protecting it. As for posession, that only happens when you have lost too much of your soul through trauma, illness, etc. and have not been able to replenish yourself with positive energy or retrieved that part that was lost. Posession happens because people LET it happen; not through Journeying or Astral Projection.

      However, if you are concerned about it, simply call on your Guides/Guardian Angels/Allies/ whatever you want to call them to protect you. Before you leave your body, envision surrounding yourself in a pure white or golden light. For believers in Angels, the Archangel Michael is a superb protector when called upon.
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      Thank you for all of the interesting points of view!

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      Quote Originally Posted by saxonharp View Post
      There are some things to be wary of when Astrally Projecting, but you really don't have to worry about your "cord" being severed. There's a LOT protecting it. As for posession, that only happens when you have lost too much of your soul through trauma, illness, etc. and have not been able to replenish yourself with positive energy or retrieved that part that was lost. Posession happens because people LET it happen; not through Journeying or Astral Projection.

      However, if you are concerned about it, simply call on your Guides/Guardian Angels/Allies/ whatever you want to call them to protect you. Before you leave your body, envision surrounding yourself in a pure white or golden light. For believers in Angels, the Archangel Michael is a superb protector when called upon.
      Didn't think many people believed in that.
      "That's the effect of living backwards, it always makes one a little giddy at first--""Living backwards!" "I never heard of such a thing!" "--but there's one great advantage in it, that one's memory works both ways." "I'm sure MINE only works one way." Alice remarked. "I can't remember things before they happen." "it's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards,"

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      Quote Originally Posted by DeathCell View Post
      Didn't think many people believed in that.
      It's amazing what people believe. Faith can be such an enigma sometimes. But I suppose that's why they call it "faith" instead of "science".
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      Quote Originally Posted by saxonharp View Post
      It's amazing what people believe. Faith can be such an enigma sometimes. But I suppose that's why they call it "faith" instead of "science".
      You also call quarters for protection?
      "That's the effect of living backwards, it always makes one a little giddy at first--""Living backwards!" "I never heard of such a thing!" "--but there's one great advantage in it, that one's memory works both ways." "I'm sure MINE only works one way." Alice remarked. "I can't remember things before they happen." "it's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards,"

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      It really is amazing what people want to believe. There's a genuine desire in pretty much all mankind that wants to believe in something other than what we see. Plus, I think it makes the believers feel empowered.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DeathCell View Post
      You also call quarters for protection?
      In a sense. When I Journey or Pray, I call the Spirits: The Four Directions, Mother Earth and Father Sky. This is less for protection though and more for an "audience" if you will. Protection comes from my Guides and Allies who walk with me in all things.
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      Quote Originally Posted by saxonharp View Post
      In a sense. When I Journey or Pray, I call the Spirits: The Four Directions, Mother Earth and Father Sky. This is less for protection though and more for an "audience" if you will. Protection comes from my Guides and Allies who walk with me in all things.
      What would you classify yourself as. Very similar to me in a way.
      "That's the effect of living backwards, it always makes one a little giddy at first--""Living backwards!" "I never heard of such a thing!" "--but there's one great advantage in it, that one's memory works both ways." "I'm sure MINE only works one way." Alice remarked. "I can't remember things before they happen." "it's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards,"

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      Nope. Don't worry, you are fine. Everyone knows that the only way the cord gets severed is if you are already dead to begin with, not the other way around. You cannot die during an OBE--it is just a dream.

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      Yes! After I had that "experience" last night I think I can clearly agree with you as I always suspected but would like to see what others think.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DeathCell View Post
      What would you classify yourself as. Very similar to me in a way.

      Generally I would classify myself as a Homo Sapien...though sometimes reluctantly.

      If you mean my Spiritual viewpoints though, I follow a traditional Native American (Lakhota) Path influenced by Toltec and Buddhist traditions.
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      I want to set the record straight, I have never, in all my research, come across a case of astral death. Ever.

      People claim they see beings like demons and other malicious things but they are harmless. They're just trying to suck energy out of you, and can do no physical damage. Just don't give them permission, block yourself off from them.

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      Quote Originally Posted by saxonharp View Post
      Generally I would classify myself as a Homo Sapien...though sometimes reluctantly.

      If you mean my Spiritual viewpoints though, I follow a traditional Native American (Lakhota) Path influenced by Toltec and Buddhist traditions.
      Very interesting
      "That's the effect of living backwards, it always makes one a little giddy at first--""Living backwards!" "I never heard of such a thing!" "--but there's one great advantage in it, that one's memory works both ways." "I'm sure MINE only works one way." Alice remarked. "I can't remember things before they happen." "it's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards,"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      I want to set the record straight, I have never, in all my research, come across a case of astral death. Ever.

      People claim they see beings like demons and other malicious things but they are harmless. They're just trying to suck energy out of you, and can do no physical damage. Just don't give them permission, block yourself off from them.

      So... what happens after they've "sucked the energy out of you"? Do you just go on your merry way as hale and whole as if it hadn't happened? What IS this energy "they" are sucking out of you anyway and why do you have it if you don't need it in the Tonal existence? Does the loss of this energy have no physical manifestations or ramifications?

      Guess I'm just curious what your "research" has told you about that.
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      My mother used to go to yoga seminars and she would meditate there. I once watched some video about meditation and after watching it I wanted to try meditating('cause it was about OBE's) XD But when I started to try, my mom said to me that I shouldn't try 'cause some spirits can posses me O_O She herself could only meditate while in seminars(It's like group meditation ) 'cause then her yoga teacher can protect all the people who are meditating
      But recently I found out that you can just call up your guides/protectors/allies/whatever and they'll protect you (or you can just protect yourself...)
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