Thread: hypnosis dangerous?

I would highly doubt it...

The danger lies in clearing your mind...which you have to do in hypnosis.

Many people report unexplained attacks whenever there in a trance or in deep meditation...although the attacks are rare, the danger is there.

There are however meditations that dont require you to clear your mind completly and using NLP and some other different things to simulate hypnosis.

...I dont have any proof of this, i'm just telling you what i read.

EDIT: The attacks are supposedly by "demonic" forces. If you dont believe in demons dont pay any attention about what ive posted above.

There is suposed to be a danger of demonic possesion, neurosis, possible psychosis.

But i dont know because ive never tried hypnosis.

That theory of having a vacant head, inviting someone to move in, is flawed.
You are NOT any more clear of mind when you're in hypnosis than if you were daydreaming.
In fact, you put yourself into self hypnosis regularly. Every day. And you don't even realise it.
In other words, if this was a real danger, we're all already at risk. Every Day.

All of this is a misunderstanding of what hypnosis is. It's simply a very deep mental relaxation. You are home. Your inhibitions have just taken a back seat. They're still there, watching for danger, but not active.
If a hypnotist asks you to undress in public and stick a hot poker through your genitals, you would refuse. ie. you're home.

Just what i read, what about the possible neurosis with misuse?...is that true?

That makes sense, i guess.

Well, actually no it doesn't make sense at all. Hypnosis is in it's essence free of any danger, refering to what Placebo said.

I didn't say there aren't any dangers. But the demon posession one seems like rubbish to me.

There is the possible danger of false memories and/or unleashing hidden traumatic memories, before you're ready.
Other than those two things, I can't think of anything else.

Originally posted by Placebo
I didn't say there aren't any dangers. But the demon posession one seems like rubbish to me.

There is the possible danger of false memories and/or unleashing hidden traumatic memories, before you're ready.
Other than those two things, I can't think of anything else.

Those are probably mistaken as demon posession maybe...i dont know who said it happens.

under the hypnotist's command, we're capable mind orgasms for hours at a time. How can that be dangerous?

People can be very persuasive/manipulative, even when you are being attentive. I don't think it would be too hard for a sly hypnotist to cause an involuntary action while you are completely receptive. Who knows, though?

Originally posted by Oneironaut
People can be very persuasive/manipulative, even when you are being attentive. I don't think it would be too hard for a sly hypnotist to cause an involuntary action while you are completely receptive. Who knows, though?

I do. Yes, it is possible. Yes, you can make people kill others in hypnosis, not by telling them to kill but in the deepest possible state in rare casses by giving them the halluscination of a tiger to be shot which is actually the person.
But that's not what is asked by the question whether it's dangerous... That's like saying a pencil is dangerous because you could stab someone with it or a compact disk or a lamp or a TV is dangerous because basically you can do malicious things with any kind of device, be it a mental or a physical one. Hypnosis is not dangerous per se.

Just for the record, lucid dreaming is a form of self hypnosis.
It certainly is not dangerous.
But I would never allow anybody but myself to induce hypnosis. It is my mind and my thoughts and I tend to keep it that way.

Lucid dreaming is not a form of self-hypnosis. There are severe differences between all sleep states and the state of hypnosis or meditation. It's a different thing. But it was noted that it is in a specific aspect similar to all kind of trance states - concentration, meditation, dancing: you get the connection between consciousness and unconciousness on a high level and you melt the seeming seperation between them.

Originally posted by Korittke
Lucid dreaming is not a form of self-hypnosis. There are severe differences between all sleep states and the state of hypnosis or meditation. It's a different thing. But it was noted that it is in a specific aspect similar to all kind of trance states - concentration, meditation, dancing: you get the connection between consciousness and unconciousness on a high level and you melt the seeming seperation between them.

When you apply inducing techniques to alter your conscious state,, how is that not a form of self hypnosis?

[quote]Just for the record, lucid dreaming is a form of self hypnosis.
It certainly is not dangerous.
But I would never allow anybody but myself to induce hypnosis. It is my mind and my thoughts and I tend to keep it that way.


amen brother

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When you apply inducing techniques to alter your conscious state,, how is that not a form of self hypnosis?If you don't know what hypnosis is, then don't talk about it.

Originally posted by Korittke
If you don't know what hypnosis is, then don't talk about it.

1. An artificially induced altered state of consciousness, characterized by heightened suggestibility and receptivity to direction.
3. A sleep like condition.

Tell me Korittke, how do these terms not applyto lucid dreaming and the techniques and state of awareness that accompany them?

Because you were conditioned to believe that hypnosis has to involve more than one party leads me to believe that you are the one that does not know what you are talking about.

Well a lucid dream in which you tell yourself things and try to make yourself believe em could be hypnosis. But if you just go about a lucid dream it might be altered conciousness, but only as much as an ordinary dream is. You are in the state that is similar to hypnosis, I'm willing to venture, during a lucid dream, but you are not necessarily "being hypnotized."

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1. An artificially induced altered state of consciousness, characterized by heightened suggestibility and receptivity to direction.
3. A sleep like condition.

Tell me Korittke, how do these terms not applyto lucid dreaming and the techniques and state of awareness that accompany them?

Because you were conditioned to believe that hypnosis has to involve more than one party leads me to believe that you are the one that does not know what you are talking about.
I read several books on hypnosis and I'm a practicer since multiple years (self hypnosis). You obviously didn't understand what you posted.
"An artificially induced blabla"
While this is correct, it is one way to describe the state of being hypnotized without isolating it from similar states. If one smokes pot he gets the same effects, does that mean he's in hypnosis. Yes, partly, a light state of trance, but no real hypnosis. But I already said that the connection between consciousness and subconsciousness is one aspect that lucid dreaming and hypnosis have in common. That doesn't make them the same thing. Hypnosis and sleep are strictly distinct from eachother
"A sleep like condition"
While it is some minor ways similar to sleep it's still something totally different from sleep. You're relaxed, OK, but your brain is not in sleep mode, it's super attentive.
The only point in which I could agree that it is highly similar to hypnosis would be clean lucidity - conscious sleep with no dream.

Originally posted by Korittke

I read several books on hypnosis and I'm a practicer since multiple years (self hypnosis). You obviously didn't understand what you posted.
"An artificially induced blabla"
While this is correct, it is one way to describe the state of being hypnotized without isolating it from similar states. If one smokes pot he gets the same effects, does that mean he's in hypnosis. Yes, partly, a light state of trance, but no real hypnosis. But *I already said that the connection between consciousness and subconsciousness is one aspect that lucid dreaming and hypnosis have in common. That doesn't make them the same thing. Hypnosis and sleep are strictly distinct from eachother
"A sleep like condition"
While it is some minor ways similar to sleep it's still something totally different from sleep. You're relaxed, OK, but your brain is not in sleep mode, it's super attentive.
The only point in which I could agree that it is highly similar to hypnosis would be clean lucidity - conscious sleep with no dream.

I have read several books on dreaming with no mention of lucid dreams too. And I practice of lucid dreaming. Does that matter?
I do understand.
Smoking pot or any other foreign substance, while may put you in an altered state, does not apply to a preconceived method to which you would use to achieve an altered state. whether it be self hypnosis or hypnosis performed in the manner you speak of.
I agree with you there are variables to hypnosis. You stated yourself that a chemical can be part hypnosis.
While it may not make them the same thing, that still does not mean it is not hypnosis. As you clearly stated it was not.

Why argue about definitions? Surely we can all agree they (LD, hypnosis, meditation, being in ‘flow’) are very similar and uniquely dissimilar.

Auto-Suggestion is a form of self-hypnosis.

It is also one of the most universal forms of lucid dream induction and dream recall techniques.

Originally posted by Astromancer
Why argue about definitions? Surely we can all agree they (LD, hypnosis, meditation, being in ‘flow’) are very similar and uniquely dissimilar.

Because this is a lucid dreaming Forum.
And as quoted, "Lucid dreaming is not a form of self-hypnosis"
I felt it is a subject of something of merit.

And as Oneironaut has said,

Originally posted by Oneironaut
Auto-Suggestion is a form of self-hypnosis.

It is also one of the most universal forms of lucid dream induction and dream recall techniques

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