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I'd be interested in volenteering for this if you want. I'm just about open to this type of thing as you can get, and while I try to be a skeptic myself, I generally fail at it. Recall is generally (unfailingly almost) the dream I wake up from and possibly one more dream from the night (1-2/night).

Hours of operation are currently ??? - 10:00am est (gmt -5) but can be changed as needed.

Oh am I able participate? I have good recall, just horrible writing skills <.< Tough that doesn't matter for descriptions. Please?

Originally Posted by Walms

Oh am I able participate? I have good recall, just horrible writing skills <.< Tough that doesn't matter for descriptions. Please?

You betcha! Just let me know when you're ready! But not tonight, I've been swilling beer, and that just can't help. Pm me and we can work out a time.

Originally Posted by rose_red

Hours of operation are currently ??? - 10:00am est (gmt -5) but can be changed as needed.

I'd wager somewhere between 2-4 in the morning would be best in for you. That would allow you enough time to fall back asleep. I don't want to cause anyone to be drowsy or tired. Just pick a date and let me know. There's no way I can do this every night, I need to sleep sometime!


Also, anyone who would like to try sending/projecting is welcome to try. We'll find you a target, and I'll provide the image to send. I've amassed a collection of images I think will be easier to send based on criteria I don't want to get into right now.

Ok, I'll let you know once I get settled down from my 9hr bus ride. How often would these be carried out? Also, what projecting technique do you use, the only one I know of is the orb technique from my father.

Originally Posted by rose_red

How often would these be carried out?

I'm willing to go until I burn myself out, but the frequency really depends on the participants. Ideally we make a connection the first attempt, and that fires us up to keep trying. But really, I can't see more than 1-3 times a month. Perhaps a "Tag" scenario would be useful. If someone gets the image right, then it's their turn to try and send. There are always more "do me" people than people who want to put effort into these kinds of things.

Originally Posted by rose_red

Also, what projecting technique do you use, the only one I know of is the orb technique from my father.

That's a good question. I've been doing this blind so far with no idea what I was doing. But I was attempting it almost every single night , and I would just go with whatever worked for that evening, whatever image I could maintain with some degree of stability. From past attempts, I've had difficulty concentrating on my target and the image a the same time. But I have some practice now, and some encouraging results. If I had to name a technique, it would be "Brute Force". But that's just my style.

ANy suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Please do tell about this Orb technique.

Oh ok, I'm on vacation so I can any time you feel like doing it, my time zone is GMT -6:00

Ok, the orb technique is basically sit in a completely(!) dark room and do any prepairation you feel is nessasary. Once you're ready, start imagining making a ball of energy with your hands (push energy into your hands and rotate your hands like you were forming a ball from clay. Start where your fingertips are almost touching and go til they're a hand's width apart, all the while keeping the intention of projecting a message to the specific person in mind). Because you are in a completely dark room you should almost be able to see an orb in your hands, and an image (or representation) of the person may appear in the orb. Then it's a matter of pushing the image through the orb into the persons dream. I've used this once, but my father has used it a number of times successfully. The last part can be altered to however you see fit to project the image, but that's the gist of it.

k my recall sucks butt, i will be happy to send. just hook me up with a reciever and tell me when.

I have decent recall. Almost without fail 20-30min "dream time" per night, with detail ranging from meh (when I'm just not into it) to excellent. I also miss a lot because I simply don't write it down when I wake in the middle of the night, and push it out for later dreams, but of course I'd be willing to for the experiment. I'm not so great with alarms and recall, though.

The problem is my current hours are 4am-whenever, so I'm not sure that will work.

I have no expertise in channeling thoughts, but hell I could give it a shot. Having two people try at once probably would work better than one, even if the second person hasn't a clue. Couldn't hurt at least, and I'm already up that late anyway (for now and a week or two to come at least).



Edit: what's the experiment's structure going to be exactly? I would assume we would want the subjects to auto-suggest before sleep that they would get the image for starters.

Originally Posted by DNK

The problem is my current hours are 4am-whenever, so I'm not sure that will work.

That would work perfectly. I wake up at 6am myself, so I could do it in the morning before I leave for work, sometime between 6-7.

Originally Posted by DNK

Having two people try at once probably would work better than one, even if the second person hasn't a clue. Couldn't hurt at least, and I'm already up that late anyway (for now and a week or two to come at least).

Actually, one of the conclusions they drew from the Greatful Dead concerts and previous experiment was that more people sending didn't improve accuracy at all. It made no difference if one person was sending, or if 10,000 stoned hippies were sending.

Originally Posted by DNK

Edit: what's the experiment's structure going to be exactly? I would assume we would want the subjects to auto-suggest before sleep that they would get the image for starters.

Nah, the sleepers just have to focus on remembering dreams. If they want to auto suggest that they receive, it couldn't hurt, but I don't think it's necessary. But I suppose we'll find out!

Just need a date and time for when to try. Also the real name of the target, since the people participating likely won't know each other very well.

rawwwwrrrr..this sounds like fuun!!

but my sleeping is so sporadic it would just ruin it. I seem to be falling asleep at random times

but...can anyone try to project a mental image into someone elses dream? how did you get the idea to start projecting ideas into peoples dream? and what do you do?

do you just visualize? do you meditate?

Originally Posted by juroara

rawwwwrrrr..this sounds like fuun!!

but...can anyone try to project a mental image into someone elses dream? how did you get the idea to start projecting ideas into peoples dream? and what do you do?

do you just visualize? do you meditate?

I came up with the idea because everyone else was making projects that involved lucidity, and I wanted something that was easier and more reliable to attempt. You have to wait for a lucid to happen, which could take a lot of time. WIth this project, anyone can try.

I do it mostly by visualization, but I occasionally meditate before hand. Not that I know how to meditate either.


So for all these people interested in participating, set up a date already!!!! Anytime at all this weekend is good for me. PM me with when you want to try this. I just need to know a time when you are reasonably sure to be asleep. ANd you have to be willing to set your alarm.

this sounds interesting and fun

Can I try in about 10days Im goin to portugal for a week

Originally Posted by Lunica

this sounds interesting and fun

Can I try in about 10days Im goin to portugal for a week

Pm me when you're ready.

I wonder what the results of the other studies were.

My sleep schedule is subject to change drastically over the next few weeks so this is probably not the best time. I'll check back in whenever I get my stuff straight.

I'm a skeptic, so I'm all the more attracted to that since you want to do it seriously.

GMT +1 (Paris): Sleeping from about 3 am to 2 pm, but I can adjust. It'll be like that for the whole month and I'm willing to use my alarm clock.
If you want to talk about it more seriously Cusp, just send me a private message and we can talk about it on the chatroom.

Had some timing issues with the initial attempts. I'll be sure to clarify things in the future. If we set up a date, lets be sure to confirm by PM the day it's supposed to go down.

Anyone still interested in trying PM me with a date and time.

I just had a passing thought. . . . considering this experiment, couldn't there be a parallel experiment when the person is awake?

or do you feel a person can be influenced easier at an altered state of mind?