Thread: overcoming the fear of losing consciousness

They sure as shit aren't dreams. If it happens you'll see while you fear this feeling that happens as your going to bed. Think about this as your going to sleep. It's the end of your life. Does that answer your question and don't try to make it happen its something you probably don't even have control over. Just don't fall asleep. My other posting kind of describes what it feels like but it's to hard for words to truly explain.

The end of your life? That's not answering my question, that making it worse..

DotheDishes,

Do you want to seem cool by saying that you, of all people, can handle terrible unimaginable experiences that weaklings like n0mad shouldn't even try to have?
Don't think that exaggerations and lies are invisible...

n0mad,

I was also scared of OBEs at one point, although for a different reason. What can help you is a more profound change of opinion and more time in order to digest it. It isn't going to happen overnight.
Maybe reading this very forum for longer time could help. Some people react too emotionally, though, and in their descriptions their experiences become almost as much exaggerated as DotheDishes' post is. But you can simply keep that in mind when you read. Please pay attention to whether somebody who says that he's been out of body has anything reliable to prove it, not to his excitement about it.
OBE is certainly not a real out-of-body experience, and you don't have to worry about coming back to your body. Just do a simple check once you have an OBE: try to look at the clock! When you wake up, remember what you saw and compare, this way you'll know by your own experience that an OBE is merely a copy of reality inside of your mind.
Try it and write back here about results!

If you don't mind then I'm curious about your fears. You mention fear of leaving your body, but the beginning of your post is about fear of losing consciousness. What exactly is the latter unusual fear and where is it coming from?

Consciousness during OBE-sensations is already "shifted", though, so if you can feel them it's too late to be scared Good luck.

I have been experiencing a lot of obe lately, a couple times a week. Im unsure If I can do it on call or not, often times it seems accidental while I am trying to fall asleep. I too become extremely frightened after "leaving" my body, Its as if I can fly/float around. Most of my fear comes from fearing the unknown and even the dark. I have been practicing surrounding myself with positive energy, thinking of clouds, sunlight, and good feelings. My longest OBE lasted perhaps 1 minute in which I floated around my house and went outside where It was raining, after that I pulled back into my body. The positive thinking works pretty good to help subside my fears, the other issue that seems to arise is what to do during the experience?

Monkey Pants, sleep with dim light on, that would solve fear... Maybe it's funny to some, but it's your own OBEs and your own life, I think it's much worse if you get continuously scared and let yourself develop negative associations of dark and fears to your OBEs.
As for what to do, it's a strange question, why did you want to have OBEs in the first place?

I didnt really intend on having obe's, they just sort of came on thier own. Ive been trying to practice doing it at will with the "rope" technique and several of my own techniques that better fit the way I have personally felt when its triggered in me, but no luck as of yet (I can make it happen if I feel the beginning "waves" but can not start the beginning "waves" on my own, If that makes sense). As far as the light goes, Im mostly just afraid of the dark while in the altered state of consciousness. As if some monster is going to suddenly appear from my imagination. lolz.

I see! Well, usually dreams are used to fulfill desires, surely there's something you would want? Or maybe do some research, or train for something you can hardly train in reality, or maybe there's something spiritual you're interested in.

I can make it happen if I feel the beginning "waves" but can not start the beginning "waves" on my own, If that makes sense

You have no idea how long I've been looking to describe that exact sensation. Much appreciated!

Back on topic:

Arutad is very correct in what she has been saying, in my humble opinion. My only advice is to kind of...."Center yourself" before you go to sleep, since you can't start the waves. It seems as if your worried about not being able to come back? Like you might float off, or not regain consciousness per say? Best thing to do is what you have been doing plus finding a way to let yourself know that no matter what happens in your OBE's your physical body is always going to be there. Dunno if it helps as my descriptions are iffy. Dreams have always been a source of information for me so I can't say I know much about the fear of falling into them, but you seem to find comfort in technique? Maybe the more you learn from text and facts the easier things will get.

I just like it how some people would ask a question and then disappear for good. Without informing anybody how they're doing or answering additional questions...

Yeah, I hate when people do that as well, but I aint one of em Sorry for my late reply.

What can help you is a more profound change of opinion and more time in order to digest it. It isn't going to happen overnight. Maybe reading this very forum for longer time could help.

Arutad, that makes total sense. By just reading what others have to say about it, you become aware that other people experience the same and nothing happens to them. The scariest thing imaginable is going through an experience thinking it's unique, it can only happen to you and the outcome is unknown. By reading other peoples experiences you get in the state of mind of "If they can do it, so can I." - motivating you to go through with it. But most important, by reading you change your emotional view into a more analytical view. Which should help me stay grounded when the experience comes again. Instead of becoming overwhelmed by emotions such as excitement and fear.

OBE is certainly not a real out-of-body experience, and you don't have to worry about coming back to your body."

And that's just the type of thing I like reading. Thank you.

If you don't mind then I'm curious about your fears. You mention fear of leaving your body, but the beginning of your post is about fear of losing consciousness. What exactly is the latter unusual fear and where is it coming from?

The fear of loosing your body comes from the feeling of being seperated from it. It also comes from the myths that some people are able to leave their body, eg through medidative techniques. I guess the combination of those two things is what triggers the thought in me: what if im wrong and this isnt in my head, what if I go through with this and actually float off instead? that why I need to read more on it, to slowely digest it, just like you said.

Best thing to do is what you have been doing plus finding a way to let yourself know that no matter what happens in your OBE's your physical body is always going to be there. Dunno if it helps as my descriptions are iffy.

It sure helps loneidealist. Thats the kind of thing I want to hear.