Thread: A scary Question!!!

COMA, I doubt it, however

A paralyzed person should learn about LDing! Also those in prison!
Man what an escape!

Hey - I never thought about those in prison I hope you don't plan on going anywhere are you Seeker. We need you in this forum. Unless they have acess to the web in prison JK
If you think about it those who are paralyzed are in there own prison.
Does anyone recall the Metalica video (One)? I think thats what its called.

Has anyone here ever known someone who came out of a coma? I think it would be interesting to ask them what they remember from the whole time they were in a coma. They obviously had brain activity, the question would be if they would be dreaming, or at least if they would see Hypnagogic Imagery just because their brain is still active and their body isn't. Any of these options would mean that they would be able to lucid dream, and if they did I would say it would be a worthwhile idea; I mean if you are in a coma, and you don't know if you'll wake up, you might as well take control of your dreams.

Originally posted by Truthbearer
Has anyone here ever known someone who came out of a coma? I think it would be interesting to ask them what they remember from the whole time they were in a coma. They obviously had brain activity, the question would be if they would be dreaming, or at least if they would see Hypnagogic Imagery just because their brain is still active and their body isn't. Any of these options would mean that they would be able to lucid dream, and if they did I would say it would be a worthwhile idea; I mean if you are in a coma, and you don't know if you'll wake up, you might as well take control of your dreams.

I have a story about a woman that was in this kind of sleeping-coma-thing for ALMOST HER WHOLE LIFE, from the age of twelve to about when she was 60.

Wow, to be in a coma from twelve to sixty... what a shitty deal.

It kind of is, but maybe not. It poses the whole Matrix vs. the real world dilemma. Maybe she has lived more than each and every one of us. She has experienced things that we never even thought of doing in our lives(although we try do achieve them in our dreams). If she was "sleeping" the whole time, then maybe she had the ability to become lucid. If she did then just imagine having eternity to do as you wish, practice your skills and achieve the highest level of lucidity. No fear of waking up if you get too excited, no need to wait till the next day to try again.

If you see it that way it might not seem that bad. But, then again, what do I know about it? Maybe she woke up and thought she had wasted her whole life and was depressed till the end of her days. But, as I've said before:

Originally posted by Truthbearer
Besides, believe me there is not much do with time but waste it, whether its by studying, working, watching T.V, writing or dreaming. It is all a way to waste(or for you optimists \"spend\") time. The fact is when we die, few of what we do is going to be worth anything

The point being its all about how we pass time, everything we do is pretty much useless, but it is important subjectively, because it helps us grow as humans. Maybe she has experienced a lot more and lived a fuller life in her dream world that in the dream world.

P.S. The irony here would be that in the Matrix films, I would definately choose the red pill, for if I know that the matrix might be better but its fake, I rather choose what's real. The only tragedy about this lady is that she never got the chance to choose.

My dad was in a coma once and we dreamed together..... we haven't mentioned it since cuz he's in the military.... so the answer, we can LD even if we don't know what it is.... We just need someone who knows what it is to love us..... maybe....

Are you a poet, Place? You have a very unique was of speaking/talking. It's pretty cool.

I agree with Truthbearer in the sense that she is living her life within her mind.

I already mentioned that evertime place posts its in a very unique deep sorta way

Well I agree with you. She is deep. I think it's the four or five periods instead of commas. Very effective.

notice the maybe at the end. That really hits makes it seem deep.

I'm quite a poet myself, for example:

I am a puppet
I rise inside the darkness of an supercilious soul
Desire is my unexpected mistress
Trapped inside this excrutiation bowl

Oh why? Destiny defies the very purpose
Of he who listen to a world that has collapsed
Insuficient is the love that one has given
When betrayed by fate in the friendly fire of the past

How about that? That's my favorite one I've written

Cool. You dont want to here my poems..

Roses are red
Violets are blue
You smell like shoes
and poo

-a friend of mine, as you can see he's quite the 'artist'.

I'm Glad you guys turned my topic into a lghter shade. It was getting me down thinking about it. But the whole poem thing I'd have to give it to RedStarSoldier - Thats deep ......................... .......... ........!

Originally posted by Truthbearer
It kind of is, but maybe not. It poses the whole Matrix vs. the real world dilemma. Maybe she has lived more than each and every one of us. She has experienced things that we never even thought of doing in our lives(although we try do achieve them in our dreams). If she was \"sleeping\" the whole time, then maybe she had the ability to become lucid. If she did then just imagine having eternity to do as you wish, practice your skills and achieve the highest level of lucidity. No fear of waking up if you get too excited, no need to wait till the next day to try again.

If you see it that way it might not seem that bad. But, then again, what do I know about it? Maybe she woke up and thought she had wasted her whole life and was depressed till the end of her days. But, as I've said before:

Originally posted by Truthbearer
Besides, believe me there is not much do with time but waste it, whether its by studying, working, watching T.V, writing or dreaming. It is all a way to waste(or for you optimists \"spend\") time. The fact is when we die, few of what we do is going to be worth anything

The point being its all about how we pass time, everything we do is pretty much useless, but it is important subjectively, because it helps us grow as humans. Maybe she has experienced a lot more and lived a fuller life in her dream world that in the dream world.

P.S. The irony here would be that in the Matrix films, I would definately choose the red pill, for if I know that the matrix might be better but its fake, I rather choose what's real. The only tragedy about this lady is that she never got the chance to choose.

She didn't remember her dreams.

Originally posted by Seeker
COMA, I doubt it, however

A paralyzed person should learn about LDing! Also those in prison!
Man what an escape!

Indeed! Yesterday I found myself in a dream, in which I was in jail for 15 years... And I decided I'll LD all the time. Then I watched a program about US prisons on history channel, and though of how much these guys can get by LDing...

Then how did she know that she was constantly in a dreaming state? Or to refrase the question, how was it a sleeping-coma-thing?

What really has me baffled is what they see, or remember seeing? It can't just be darkness can it? I wonder whether it feels like it was only 20 minutes, or whether it did feel like it was 48 years....

Time is relevent (sp?). If you are under certain substances influence you can feel eternity in a minute, a year in a second. I'll not name the substance

i dont think prisoners can fall asleep for 15 years though.. lol

Hey Seeker..What did you do in your dream to land you a 15 year prison sentense?..must of been pretty heavy.I had some friends in jail..they say sleeping pills are as popular as other drugs because the more an inmate can sleep,the less he spends in prison

I bet that what he experienced was mind "skewing", where the mind fills in blacks and messes up your recall of a dream.

Not skewed:
Went to prison -30 second time period in prison- Left prison by a magic horse or something

When brain has skewed it (and as you remember it):
Went to prison -15 years of general stuff- Left prison

We can't tell, however.
Or how about your brain can make simple things seem like a long time? Like, being in prison can be simple. Wake up, eat, work, bed, or something like that. You brain can easily emulate that procedure and fill in 15 years of it or so.

Or reading a book. If it's book you've read before, your mind will fill it in with what it knows.

Originally posted by CocoDan
Well I agree with you. She is deep. I think it's the four or five periods instead of commas. Very effective.

lol but i use periods in my posts.....jk's

Hypnotic Effects on coma patience. I remember that lesson all to well and what I learned about comas those many months ago.

Anyway, people in comas don't have dreams. Why? The dictionary states that a coma is a sleep like state in which one cannot awaken. All coma experts know this definition to be extremely inacurate.

The state you are in during a coma is WAY different from the state you are in during sleep, and people who are in comas sometimes awake.

You see, during a coma you have very very little brain activity at all. It is very rare for a coma patient to even get his brain activity level to height of a person who is sleeping. And when that does happen, their in a state where it is possible for them to awoken.

This low level of brain activity exists basically because the mind is healing from the injury that it substained. Thus, people during comas simply don't have dreams.

But as a coma patient heals his internal clock comes back on and he can get a sense of night and day. During the day the coma patients eyes may be open and blinking, but nobody would there. During the night the coma patient would close their eyes, but they wouldn't snore. People in comas don't snore.

That's how it was possible in the movie Kill Bill for Uma Thurman to actually see Buck (who came to fuck) in that little flash back she had.

Oh, and people do speak to coma patience who wake up. They found that their state of consciousness when they get out of it enough to recover to be extremely weird.

One lady for example remembered her doctor coming up to her everyday during a routine check and him saying that he'd never wake up. She thought everyday at that momment "Damn him" but she was not smart enough to do anything else or realize that she was in a coma.

That's why doctors speak nicely of coma patience to motivate them to wake up.

So I answered the question and gave more than was needed.