Thread: Sylvia browne ..true seer or a fraud?

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Take note of the "Sylvia's Clock - Update" section.

Click on the "Sylvia's updated response" link for some added fun.

lmao that guy grilled her

Originally posted by bradybaker
http://www.randi.org/

Take note of the \"Sylvia's Clock - Update\" section.

Click on the \"Sylvia's updated response\" link for some added fun.

Bradybaker did what I was going to do.

Fraud. Her predictions are full of shite, her website had a bunch, and the incorrect ones just mysteriously disappeared.

Oh, just thought I'd add this. She predicted that John Kerry was going to win the election. Oops:

Originally posted by James Randi (ultimate in coolness)
Oh yes, Sylvia Browne — the Unsinkable Browne — predicted a Kerry victory in the election, but we might have expected that, since she also predicted that Bill Bradley would win the 2000 election. One thing you must admit: Sylvia's consistent.

EDIT: Is he called John Kerry? Where the hell did I get John Kerry from?

hey! i've heard of her! i saw her on a Discovery Science channel!

I know there are real psichics, but I don't think she's one of them.

Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)</div>

Oh, just thought I'd add this. She predicted that John Kerry was going to win the election. Oops:

<!--QuoteBegin-James Randi (ultimate in coolness)

Oh yes, Sylvia Browne — the Unsinkable Browne — predicted a Kerry victory in the election, but we might have expected that, since she also predicted that Bill Bradley would win the 2000 election. One thing you must admit: Sylvia's consistent.

EDIT: Is he called John Kerry? Where the hell did I get John Kerry from?[/b]

Ouch

From what i can see some of her preidictions just seem a bit too far fetched for example

19. Atlantis will begin to show itself by 2023 and be fully visible by 2026.
20. After 2050, the "Age of the Messiah" is upon us. People turn totally toward Spirituality, peace will rein for a long time. People will return to community living, loving each other, and working together.
35. Peace will last from 2050 until 2100, and then I see nothing beyond, which could mean "the end will come like a thief in the night."
40. Aliens will begin to show themselves in the year 2010, they will not harm us, they simply want to see what we are doing to this planet. They will teach us how to use anti-gravity devices again, such as they did for the pyramids.
7. Diagnostic chambers which map the body's electrical balance to predict health problems before the come.
14. People will be able to simply "walk out" of their bodies upon death.

some other of her pridictions just seem like the logical evolution of exsisting technology

1. Eradication of cancer as we know it, using sound waves, photo sensitive drug therapy, and "self-addicting" cells.
2. Robotic houses, controlled by computerized switchboard.
5. Separate body parts cloned for organ transplants; not an entire body.
23. Atomic batteries will run cars.
24. No more gas propelled rockets in space; we will have nuclear powered cylinder shaped objects that travel everywhere.
29. Proteins are developed without animal meat, very powerful, builds immune system.

to be honest the pridictions are intresting . would be nice to meet aliens in 2010

a few of them are what we'd expect, cures for cancer,robot houses, etc. The idea of aliens coming in 2010 i would believe, no world wars or nuclear halocausts is nice, no us presidency is good( there was something about this in some book)atomic batteries running cars i wouldnt trust,executition by vaporization sounds a bit odd "Matter cannot be destroyed nor created" i recall one law stating, what does vaporization actually do?convert to a fine dust?

It's just like wishful thinking, though. Sticking it down on a website dosen't really make it more true than anything else. Anyway, I think James Randi spotted that she used to delete old incorect predictions on her site, from the years before. Yeah.

I have seen Sylvia Browne in PA, at Temple. Anyway there she was picking people to come up and have them aska question. Every person walked away as if they were in shock. She basically hit the nail on the head for each of them. I have read alot of her books, almost all of them except for the newest one. Yes very interesting books, great reads. On the other hand I can say I am very friendly with a psychic Glenn Dove on Long Island. He is great friends with John Edwards , another famou psychic one the Island. Anyway I've spoken to Glenn about her and he says that yes she is a areal psychic, but sometimes you dont always get an answer for everyone, it just might not come through. In that case, thats where Sylvia and GLenn differ. Glenn will just straight up tell you he doesnt know. Sylvia is more of a psychic "Bully" She will tell you something and thats how it is. Its set in stone, but many people arent going to speak up to a psychic. Who knows. I feel she is legit, but remember shes like a bully, I dont know how else to explain it.

Other Great Psychics

Edgar Cayce
John Edwards
Glenn Dove (Just likes to lay low Very Very Legit)www.glenndove.com
James Van Praagh

Originally posted by Funki10is
I have seen Sylvia Browne in PA, at Temple. Anyway there she was picking people to come up and have them aska question. Every person walked away as if they were in shock. She basically hit the nail on the head for each of them.

Sorry to break it to you, but many "psyhics" to plant random guys in the audience. Yes, I am saying they are frauds.

Sorry to break it to you...

Well I was one of the lucky bunch that she picked, and I as well walked away in shock...

Originally posted by Funki10is
Sorry to break it to you...

Well I was one of the lucky bunch that she picked, and I as well walked away in shock...

How odd that you neglected to mention this extremely crucial point in your first post. Think you'd remember something like being picked by a very famous psyhic and then being surprised by her predictions - why, it almost comes across as if you happen to of just lied in my face!

your a mean person...
I love when people tell you what you know

I don't know much about Sylvia, except the few times I've seen her on Montel. It always seemed rather fishy to me, like she would say "I see someone important to you starting with an "S" or a "A", (that's the lady right?) After reading her list of predictions, most of them sound ridiculous and far fetched and some, as someone stated earlier, just seem like obviously likely scientific advancements based on the direction we are already heading. I believe in the psychic ability of some people, especially those who are willing to admit when they don't know something or were wrong about something. I don't know his name unfortunately, but my ex-boyfriend's mother knew a guy in New York that could make predictions based on a photograph, first name, and age. You send him this information and he makes a tape to send back to you. my photo along with my ex and several of her family members were sent and mine were surprisingly accurate. He knew things about me and certain health problems, that I had a college degree I was not doing anything with (which I was), and predicted I would lose a child which I did. It was quite eerie. But back to Sylvia Browne, I'm looking at the Randi site and I think she make have some psychic ability (otherwise she would not be famous) but she also uses fraudelent tactics and will not admit when she is incorrect, therefore I don't trust her.

Yea most of her "Predictions" look funky to me...
And I am Funki! haha

Funny, somebody suggested her books to me recently, so I got one from the library and skimmed it. I have a dim view of commercial psychics, but there were a few beliefs that she presented that jibe with a few of my own (reincarnation, people with 'negative' souls, dual male and female godhead) and there were a few passages that struck a chord. There were also many parts that just made me shake my head.

I think that she has some insight (like ALL OF US to some degree) but I think that she is milking it. Her predictions are garbage (either extrapolating known science or regurgitating new-age memes.) I think that I read that she charges for membership in her "church."

Any 'psychic' that uses the first letters thing is using an old trick called planting. They get you to visualize a specific situation in your mind and then fish for more details using general info (growing the plant.) It doesn't work if you don't give away any information for the 'psychic' to use. Phone psychics and bad Tarot readers use the trick ad nauseum, and you don't need to be in on the trick to fall for it. It's psychology, not the paranormal.

A 'true' psychic would need to be able to make a prediction without outside assistance that is both accurate and independently scientifically verifiable. No psychic yet has been able to do all three, and heresay is not scientific proof.

- that said, I believe in psychic phenomena, go figure?

i try to read a lot of the books that i sell at work, but S. Brown comes off to me as a commercial psychic. she's probably had some successes in helping people out, maybe even finding a missing person for the police. i didnt know her noteriety was from Montell's show. but she's probably let it go to her head.

i dont like John Edwards either

Of course, all pyschics are phonys, but Sylvia Browne and J Edward take the cake. Look at Sylvia's so-called predictions, for one thing. They are for the next 100 years! How can she go wrong? We will all be dead in 100 years, no one will still be around to prove her wrong.
How convenient! It's like watching a weather report, and the forecaster says " we're going to see some snow between now and 2006, and some rain" Ha. ( Imagine going to work, and telling your boss you'll have that report on his desk in 100years!) And people will still follow her. And even when her predictions were for a year, they were either out right wrong, and forgotten, or just plain obvious (like there will be an earthquake in Alaska, which has many every day; or the Pope will become ill). And then there's John Edward. This guy is such an obvious fraud, the people in his audience, must be complete morons. One show I was watching, he actually predicted that someone in the audience was eating in the car on the way to his show! Incredible. I tried to debate this on one of his fan club boards, but I was promptly banned. So much for open minds! " I'm getting a "C"! A "C" sounding name! They're telling me a "C" -- as in CANCELLED?

I like the person above. They know what they are talking about.

Yes, Sylvia has me all spun up. After spending years researching her fraudulent behaver, I finally saw her on TV for the first time, a few weeks ago, on Montel. And I must say, she was actually much worse than I thought she would be. She seemed tired and annoyed. Typical audience member question:"My (insert whatever dead relative here) died years ago. Is he/she still with me?" Sylvia's response "Yeh. He's behind you. Right now. Every dead person is still with us" Then the next person would ask the same thing, and then the same answer was given!

yessss! some of these psychics put out "bestsellers" and do the talk show circuit and then all of a sudden their full-on prophets. they dont ever predict anything relevant to humanity. and the questions people ask them are so ego-centric that all you have to do is stroke them the right way and they become suckers, i mean putty, no i do mean suckers.

Now Sylvia claims that ringing/buzzing in your ears is your Spirit Guide trying to contact you. I always thought it was the medical condition known as tinnitus! (sp?) Now I realize, after all those concerts I went to, the ringing in my ears wasn't hearing damage, it was my Spirit Guide! And it seemed to be loudest after seeing Ozzy Osbourne. Amazing! --I've been reading on one of Sylia's fan message boards, some of her fans are going crazy, trying to relax enough so they can contact their Spirit Guides. And all they need to do is sit in a car and lite a fire cracker, I guarantee, your head will be abuzz with all the Spirit Guides you will ever need. --- And another thought: If Pyschics were for real, there wouldn't be any casinos or state lotteries. But of course, their followers would say"but they only use their powers for good! They wouldn't dream of cleaning out a casino, and giving the winnings to charity, and having the casino shut down for good, thereby sparing countless victims from losing their life savings" ---By the way, in case some of you don't know, Sylvia charges $700.00 for a 30 min phone reading. That's a lot of money to spend to find out you have a dead relative with a receding hairline.