Thread: I'll give you natural.

Haha, I like that. Kudos.

My cheese burger is natural, but no one eats it.

Originally Posted by guitarboy

My penis is natural, but no one eats it.

sounds like a personal problem.

So I take it Natural is not the same as Organic?

I guess it depends how you interpret organic lol. But the food industry will never sell you short on bullshit. Let's just be thankful for all the tasteless food our farmers produce.

"Natural" has fewer requirements than "organic" when a company decides to try and label shit. People have this delicious association between "natural" and "healthy," which is a pretty stupid connection to make. 'Cept in the case of trans-fats.

Edit: Also, do you want to know the chemical difference between natural and artificial flavoring?

THERE IS NONE. It's the exact same chemical compound. E-x-a-c-t-l-y. Natural just means it was acquired from the actual fruit, instead of by a chemical reaction.

Organic is a worse term, because all food is organic. It's made of carbon compounds=organic.

Originally Posted by Abra

"Natural" has fewer requirements than "organic" when a company decides to try and label shit. People have this delicious association between "natural" and "healthy," which is a pretty stupid connection to make. 'Cept in the case of trans-fats.

Edit: Also, do you want to know the chemical difference between natural and artificial flavoring?

THERE IS NONE. It's the exact same chemical compound. E-x-a-c-t-l-y. Natural just means it was acquired from the actual fruit, instead of by a chemical reaction.

Organic is a worse term, because all food is organic. It's made of carbon compounds=organic.

Yes, but organic usually means the product is produced without the use of pesticides, BGH, etc. Things like that.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Yes, but organic usually means the product is produced without the use of pesticides, BGH, etc. Things like that.

Aderp.

We know that Black Eagle. The point is that organic is the wrong term. The correct term is ecological.

Diesel gasoline. It's organic and natural. Drink it.

Originally Posted by Marvo

ecological.

That's better.

I find the term "Natural Pepperoni" on those Pizza Hut commercials hilarious.

How does one make the pig & cow you just annihilated any more natural after letting
its bloody/fatty fragments soak into each other, & letting it cure in the freezer with a
pound of salt while wrapped in hog casings?

I get the whole "no preservatives/low fat" deal, but calling it natural?
Really? Oh, and by calling it this, they're actually admitting to the fact
that they were serving us round, red pieces of cardboard in the past. Yum!

Originally Posted by Marvo

We know that Black Eagle. The point is that organic is the wrong term. The correct term is ecological.

1. characterized by the interdependence of living organisms in an environment; "an ecological disaster"

Too vague for me. I think we need a term that specifically means a certain product grown without the use of drugs, chemicals, pesticides etc.

Abra, I don't understand why you state that Natural has fewer requirements yet you also state that organic is a worse term. I say organic is a better term.

Organic- being or relating to or derived from or having properties characteristic of living organisms; "organic life"; "organic growth"; "organic remains found in rock

Man-made hormones and pesticides aren't considered organic because normally the organism would not have these chemicals present in their systems.

Organic does not mean healthy, but I do believe it means free of these misplaced substances...which is really the whole point of buying organic.

Edit: Found another definition of organic

Organic- of or relating to foodstuff grown or raised without synthetic fertilizers or pesticides or hormones; "organic eggs"; "organic vegetables"; "organic chicken"

I think this fits the bill pretty well....

Originally Posted by dreamsky.

I find the term "Natural Pepperoni" on those Pizza Hut commercials hilarious.

How does one make the pig & cow you just annihilated any more natural after letting
its bloody/fatty fragments soak into each other, & letting it cure in the freezer with a
pound of salt while wrapped in hog casings?

I get the whole "no preservatives/low fat" deal, but calling it natural?
Really? Oh, and by calling it this, they're actually admitting to the fact
that they were serving us round, red pieces of cardboard in the past. Yum!

Blood is natural. Fat is natural. Cold temperatures are natural. Salt is natural. Casings come from parts of the pig, which is natural. Is mixing natural things bad? All things, no matter how artificial they seem, are ultimately derivatives of nature.

Originally Posted by Licity

Blood is natural. Fat is natural. Cold temperatures are natural. Salt is natural. Casings come from parts of the pig, which is natural. Is mixing natural things bad? All things, no matter how artificial they seem, are ultimately derivatives of nature.

That's very true. But my question is what were they serving us before to have to make the distinction?

Originally Posted by dreamsky.

That's very true. But my question is what were they serving us before to have to make the distinction?

Probably just harmless potassium sorbate or another preservative that people condemn despite the lack of clinical trials showing negative effects. That, or, they didn't change anything. People like the concept of trying something New And Improved, so how better to advertise a product by imperceptibly changing the proportion of ingredients(less salt, more time in the freezer, etc.) and tacking on fuzzy terms like Improved and New Formula and Natural?

Things that are natural: cyanide, belladonna, fecal matter, death, placentas, hooves
Things that are organic: e.coli... 'nuff said.

I always disliked these terms used as food-based buzzwords.

I like the fact that you said more after saying "nuff said".

'nuff said.

I know far too many people who justify their marijuana use not with opinions based on facts and evidence but by making this association "natural=healthy". I can safely say that people with this mindset are genuinely stupid.