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      Sneaking

      Which do you think is the quieter way to walk, heal-toe, or toe-heal?

      Toe-heal is more of a tip-toeing way of walking, using your calf muscle to dampen your steps, while heal-toe relies on rolling your foot over the floor in a smooth motion. With heal-toe, you spread your weight out a little more, so you could avoid some potentially squeaky floorboards, but as your heal touches first, you run the risk of thumping it down, as there's generally less sensitivity and control in the heal, as there is in the toes.
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      If running, heel-toe for more solid control.

      If on wooden boards or tiles, then toe-heel works well if you're slow.

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      Toe-heel. Ninja style, yo.

      Quote Originally Posted by ClouD View Post
      If running, heel-toe for more solid control.

      If on wooden boards or tiles, then toe-heel works well if you're slow.

      All these nights having to wash my hands without waking people up, and all those fun exploration night-times.
      This talk of sneaking in the night... And... Washing your hands... Reminds me of Macbeth for whatever reason.
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      Neither. Any experienced woodsman would tell you that you place your whole foot down evenly, and lightly, make sure there are no hindrances like twigs, then transfer weight to that foot. Wash, rinse, repeat. It is even entirely possible to do this while running; I can run through woods I know without hardly making a sound, if I'm in the right frame of mind. Or if I need to.

      Heel-to-toe or toe-to-heel will do, but they are a compromise.

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      Good answer, MoS.
      I never knew that. I just sneak around on my toes and forget the whole heel thing. I just figured it was quieter because in bellydance I hop on my toes to avoid any thumping sounds.
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      Well while training ninjutsu there was about 10 different ways to step, differenting the surface and what you aim to. When you become proficient in controlling your point of balance it's more like gliding in hard surfaces like floor. But as it comes to woods where terrain is highly unpredicable you must adapt accordingly.

      But it was incredible to see someone who has trained silent movement for years to perform it.
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      Heel-to-toe, actually walking around the outsides of your feet as if the bottoms of your feet were turned inward. In this, the balls of your feet, and your toes, should not touch the ground - also a form of ninjutsu walk. It should be a continues motion, somewhat 'rolling' from your heel, around the outside edges, and to the front of your feet.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Elis D. View Post
      Who sneaks? Nigga I got FREEDOMS.
      Well sneaking training is good for your balance. Also, I gotta say it has helped me a lot
      Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.

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      I like to hop around on my toes, and absorbing the shock dramatickly with my knees..
      Only problem is my toes pop lol..

      But in band class, we marched by rolling from our heal, to toe.. And on the outside of our feet.. Keeping everything from our waist up not moveing.
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      Socks, you wont hear a thing
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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Socks, you wont hear a thing
      Maybe you won't but someone else will. if you are using normal socks you still cannot remove sounds like cracking wood from the floor or when you are going in stairs. Also, normal sucks are often too slippery to have sufficient control on your steps. With good practice you can almost sense the ground you are walking on and move completely silent because you can avoid those "hot places". You can do it without socks . Of course outdoors you have more factors that can make sounds.

      Add darkness to it and you have HC mode. Tripping on something you cannot see is annoying. ^^
      Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.

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      Heel-toe in bare feet

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      I'll have to try putting my whole foot down evenly, I never thought to try that one before. Usually I'm sneaking through my house late at night trying not to wake my mom after coming home from work / a friend's house.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post
      Neither. Any experienced woodsman would tell you that you place your whole foot down evenly, and lightly, make sure there are no hindrances like twigs, then transfer weight to that foot. Wash, rinse, repeat. It is even entirely possible to do this while running; I can run through woods I know without hardly making a sound, if I'm in the right frame of mind. Or if I need to.

      Heel-to-toe or toe-to-heel will do, but they are a compromise.
      Ha that's what I do when I sneak down the stairs works quite well. The heel-toe, toe-heel usually causes an unequal weight distribution causing the stairs to creek.
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      why don't you just tip-toe softly? (bare feet of course) i move silently in this way and its also how i run.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Heel-to-toe, actually walking around the outsides of your feet as if the bottoms of your feet were turned inward. In this, the balls of your feet, and your toes, should not touch the ground - also a form of ninjutsu walk. It should be a continues motion, somewhat 'rolling' from your heel, around the outside edges, and to the front of your feet.
      I agree, the "monkey walk" works pretty well for me and you can do it fairly quickly. In fact... I'm going to monkey walk to the fridge now.

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      I've actually walked normally toe-heel for some time now, so that's definitely my preferred sneaking method, especially when running.

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      I always on the balls of me feet; like running on the whole foot but I lift the heel a little. I almost never make a sound. when walking, I put my hole foot down and walk lightly. It's hard to explain, but I'm a light person.

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      Last weekend I stayed with a friend who has very creaky floors, so I was able to practice sneaking. I tried tip toes, placing my entire foot down at once, using my knees to absorb shock, and walking on the outsides of my feet (not sure if I was doing it right). I think you'd have to be mad skilled or be able to hover in order to move silently in that house.

      But in my house I sometimes walk in to a room and my mom doesn't even realize I'm there until she turns around. :]
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      I don't think there's much that can be done in the manner you sneak to prevent creaky floors from creaking. It's the WHERE that's more important. I know that you can minimize the sound you make on a creaky staircase by keeping to the edges. I'd suppose the same would be true for a creaky floor. I don't know for sure, though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed View Post
      I don't think there's much that can be done in the manner you sneak to prevent creaky floors from creaking. It's the WHERE that's more important. I know that you can minimize the sound you make on a creaky staircase by keeping to the edges. I'd suppose the same would be true for a creaky floor. I don't know for sure, though.
      That's generally true, although sometimes it's the nails on the edge that cause the creak.



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