Thread: Power of suggestion

I am convinced that some people's subconcious convinces their concious that they were Lucid dreaming...when in fact they were not.

I say it here also...no kidding.

I guess so, but the definition of a Lucid dream is discovering that you are dreaming, no matter what. So what when you dream that you were lucid and you really weren't?

The subconscious could fake the control aspects of Lding, but it cannot fake the realization of it. When you say "this is a dream", whether you are very aware or only a bit, you are still, by definition, lucid.

it sure is an interesting paradoxal theory.

This also reminds me of that psychological event where, if you are called something enough times, you will start believing it.

This could be a good philosophical discussion...so i am moving it.


I think it was PAUPER who said that for every hypothosis or something true, it has to be able to be falsified....now, dreams cannot be falsified, because no one knows YOUR OWN DREAMS, except you.

So who are we to say whether someone else is right or wrong; but im still convinced that people RECONSTRUCT dreams in their heads...filling in the gaps, if you will...

It is also similar with HISTORY...people hate gaps, and will fill them in, etc.

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I am convinced that some people's subconcious convinces their concious that they were Lucid dreaming...when in fact they were not.[/b]

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So who are we to say whether someone else is right or wrong; but im still convinced that people RECONSTRUCT dreams in their heads...filling in the gaps, if you will...

I have actually experienced this...which is at least a 2-fold paradox because in the dream I was saying "This is a dream!" yet I wasn't lucid because I had no control - yet again I was aware that I still had no control, and this level of understanding ultimately made it feel just like any other dream.
I understood that I understood that I was being fooled by false lucidity - lo! - not as exciting as it seems!

And yes, this does go hand-in-hand with filling in gaps. I find that it's easy to surrender to even the slightest inkling of some wishful recollection - almost as if you so strongly prefer that it be a certain way that you convince yourself of the said 'wishful recollection.' But then again, my personal experiences with this did always stem from the inkling...so why was there even a slight inkling? Perhaps I'm more filling in outlines that do exist...

im a big fan of the power of suggestion...i told my significant other over and over that they looked good, even though at first, they didnt...over time, they started to believe it, and lo and behold, tons of people now think they look good...funny stuff

Would waking up only to realize you are still sleeping fit into this category?