Thread: Socialism or Capitalism, place your bets

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Socialism never works because almost everyone always moves towards large government to inforce their socialist ideals. Then what you end up with is a totalitarian socialist government which totally sucks. They are almost always linked, the more socialist a government becomes the bigger the government gets. Which is what we are really seeing today in the US. As we move towards a more socialist government our government just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Originally posted by Alric
Socialism never works because almost everyone always moves towards large government to inforce their socialist ideals. Then what you end up with is a totalitarian socialist government which totally sucks. They are almost always linked, the more socialist a government becomes the bigger the government gets. Which is what we are really seeing today in the US. As we move towards a more socialist government our government just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

the US is a pretty damn big country! But theres more on the map than just the US. There are a lot of small countries where the best form of government is Socialism.

I don't believe that at all. Even small countries can have big out of control governments.

That's because it's really easy to believe whatever you want when you don't look at the evidence.

The fact is, smaller countries that have began adapting more socialist lasws are ideally fulfilling their peoples' needs. In four years in Nicaragua before Reagan started his campaign to end world happiness the Sandinistan enplaced government nearly completely eliminated illiteracy, made a massive hit against hunger and homelessness, outreached doctors all over the country and increased sustainability. That was something they could not have accomplished with Capitalism.

In fact, many countries today are naturally brining in more socialist allied laws such as national healthcare, real welfare, real rehabilitation for criminals instead of prison/criminal college.

I mean, honestly if I could restructure all the borders and all the governments I think people would be happier with socialist systems, but of course you can't just do that, and it's the transition which usually brings in the corruption. I mean, the USSR, China, North Korea and Vietnam are not, were not, never had been Communist state, they were all, in the words of their own philosophy, Dictatorships of the Proletariat, a transition to Communism, which 9 times out of 10 was an oxymoron, and that's where we get all the corruption.

Real communism has succeeded many times over. A good portion of the early societies in the Americas and Australia were completely communist in every definition of the term, of course to avoid criticism historians called it "Communalism." This is something often ignored by debators over the two forms of economy.