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- 09-09-2008 03:11 AM #1Antagonist Achievements:
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Time
Time is Infinite
- To be finite, time would have to have an end.
- For anything to have an end, there has to be a time when it exists and a later time when it has stopped existing.
- So for time to have an end, there would have to be time after time had stopped existing, which is a contradiction.
- So time can’t have an end.
Time is Finite
- If time were infinite, an infinite series of moments would have to have concluded before any given moment.
- But an infinite series can’t conclude.
- So no given moment in time could ever get around to occuring, as it were.
- But time is just the series of temporal moments.
- So time can’t be infinite.
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- 09-09-2008 03:19 AM #2Drivel's Advocate
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- 09-09-2008 03:22 AM #3Antagonist Achievements:
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Defined particular point in time.
Originally Posted by Xaqaria 
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- 09-09-2008 03:26 AM #4smashin ur illusions
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I believe in coyotes and time as an abstract.
- 09-09-2008 03:45 AM #5Drivel's Advocate
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time is a measurement of length. A point does not have length. Therefore, a moment of time does not exist. Originally Posted by Omicron
Also, who said an infinite series can't end? What about the infinite series of fractions between 1 and 2?Art
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- 09-09-2008 04:10 AM #6
Infinity can only exist in the moment?
Since the moment is all that is, what else?
What 'happened' exists as what is. What 'will happen', exists as what is.
- 09-09-2008 04:33 AM #7When the ink runs out...
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Hmm...maybe time could be a combination of the two theories.
Time has a beginning, but it will continue on forever.
- 09-09-2008 06:15 AM #8Antagonist Achievements:
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There is a problem with both arguments we haven't noticed yet, which means they are both meaningless.
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Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed
To be finite, time would have to have a beginning
For anything to have a beginning, there has to be a time when it exists and an earlier time when it does not exist.
So for time to have a beginning, there would have to be time before time had started existing, which is a contradiction.
So time can’t have a beginning.Last edited by Carôusoul; 09-09-2008 at 06:20 AM.
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- 09-09-2008 01:42 PM #10Bio-Turing Machine
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What is time?
Can you define time without utilizing a variable integral to human memory or any other phenomenology?
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- 09-09-2008 06:11 PM #11Banned
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This and the others are just double speak. Originally Posted by Omicron
- 09-09-2008 09:07 PM #12Omicron was rational. Originally Posted by drewmandan
Omicron is rational.
Omicron will be rational.
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Time is an illusion. The moment is all that is; both past and future existing now.
Nothing infinite can be defined but as the unknown.
- 09-12-2008 05:41 AM #13Banned
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Someone should describe to me how time passes.
- 09-12-2008 08:09 PM #14Drivel's Advocate
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There are many problems with both arguments. Thanks for making a meaningless thread. Originally Posted by Omicron Art
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- 09-13-2008 02:17 AM #15You are a fool. Originally Posted by Xaqaria You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
- 09-13-2008 04:48 AM #16Beyond the Poles Achievements:
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Aren't "we" all?
You... we... he... she... they... it...
All... fools...
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- 09-13-2008 04:54 PM #17Drivel's Advocate
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No need to tell me what I already (don't) know. Don't you remember my original tag line? Originally Posted by ClouD Art
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- 09-13-2008 05:12 PM #18Bio-Turing Machine
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Originally Posted by ClouD Originally Posted by Cyclic13
I remember a dream views where people did not say so much vague pseudo-intellectual garbage. What is all this? Does it even mean anything? Stop trying to breach beyond your context. Holy crap I hate this thread.
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- 09-13-2008 05:29 PM #19Drivel's Advocate
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This one isn't even that bad. I've seen some threads that are just pages of pages of solskye (cyclic13), cloud, really, and a few others spouting nonsensical bullshit and pretending they understand each other enough to agree. If you do enough acid and read enough wikipedia pages on eastern philosophy, you can join in on the fun too. Originally Posted by O'nus Art
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"Speak for yourself!", said the masks to each other as they fervently scrape at the walls of themselves in casting judgement, attempting to defend their digital turf, and all the while making endless assumptions in order to make their moment more "real" than the next.
"Oh, the silly games "we" play", said I... as he marionettes the masks to and fro...
HA!
Egos start to harden just before they crack... Mon Chéri
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- 09-13-2008 06:38 PM #21Drivel's Advocate
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Are you talking about me or yourself? Are you hoping that your vague preacher attitude is going to 'crack' your ego allowing you to learn the truth? Originally Posted by Cyclic13 Art
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- 09-13-2008 07:03 PM #22DEATH TO FANATICS! Achievements:
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AHAHAHA. Isn't the ego such a funny thing? I think he was making a general statement towards all of us.
157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
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TEEHEE!
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- 09-13-2008 11:30 PM #24Drivel's Advocate
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Actually, I doubt that. He tends to respond rather passive aggressively to any question of his guru-hood. I didn't make assumptions based on the one statement by itself, but also combined with past history. Originally Posted by stonedape Art
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Think what you must...
I will have it no other way...
If A, then B.
If A, then !B.
Which is it?
If ∞, then ∞.
Always and never...Last edited by Cyclic13; 09-14-2008 at 12:00 AM.
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