Thread: What if god was proven non-existant?

I think it depends on what you proved. If it was just there is no "god" I can see a lot of it going on just how it is now. If you prove there is no after life, well then you have some major problems.

Even without a god you can have some "force" behind everything.

Originally posted by Alric
I think it depends on what you proved. If it was just there is no \"god\" I can see a lot of it going on just how it is now. If you prove there is no after life, well then you have some major problems.

Even without a god you can have some \"force\" behind everything.

I second what Alric said...uh...typed.

There are many religions that don't believe in God but believe in an afterlife. Buddism is one that comes off the top of my head (and they call the afterlife "nirvana").

However, if there were absolutely no forces whatsoever... no afterlife, no God/gods, no spirtuality... then I believe people will automatically think "I'm gonna die and be non-existent anyway, why not have some fun?" (in other words, there would be more problems, wars, criminals, broken hearts, immoral acts, etc.)

I agree with that. I think religion holds more merit in society then many atheists are willing to grant. Even IF there is no God, and religion is just a carefully constructed human institution, it's still an important establishment in history. Sure it causes its wars, but it also holds society together during harsh times, and gives hope for many to lean on.

i could see a lot of preist and such having nervous breakdowns if god was undoubtably nonexistant. alot of panic and confusion would take over the greater park of the world. so much circles around the idea of a one all mighty god that if he were proven nonexistant then i think we might experiance some kind of modern dark ages.

I agree with Incubus. I would have to say religion is like a drug.

Either:

"They must of got it wrong!"

or

War.

Like what Je33icaLy88 said is what I meant.

No after-life. Nothing. Nothing to hold on to.

I was thinking the same thing to. Why not have some fun?

Not to mention all the greedy bastards who will now exploit the poor even more. If being rich makes them happy, they have no reason to worry about going to hell by doing what they must to "succeed".


So I was thinking, after a few decades of war and confusion, we could really have a new world order. Some manipulative leader comes and says to all "Religion has failed you. I will not." And the whole world is united under his rule, under a new government that is the religion. All forms of religion are banned and religious workers are murdered, and all associated with religion and possess religious works are killed as well. Religious writing are burned. Athesists are slaughtered for claiming god does not exist, since they are aware that there is a god in the first place. Scientists are praised for their supreme knowledge, and are offered the highest places in society. The accidential creation of god is forbidden as well. Within a few generations society has automatically accepted this fact. There is no god to think about, because society has erased it from existance. History books are re-written to suit this purpose. All are required to enter the field of science. Civil services are fufilled by machines at this point. Full automation has consumed society. The main vision of this leader is to have the most advanced society ever--the cost does not matter.

Then there's the fact of whether this is really right or wrong? Who is there to judge? And if the people are really happy, who has the right to interfere? Who would even think of interfering if they are that happy?

Of course the only men not under this influence are the high leaders.

Ok now I really don't think any of that would happen heh. I think a lot of people would go kill themself but then I think a lot would try to live forever. If you get the technology to live forever then it isn't so bad.

That's true but life would get really boring after a while. And not to mention how scared and nervous you would get when that happens. If there is nothing to look forward to except non-existance and never knowing it, why would you ever want to stop taking the life-extending drugs? It's a cycle of mental self-destruction.

There is always something new. I don't think life could ever get boring.

You'd get depressed with monotony of certain things. Out-living you rgrandchildren and great-grandchildren, etc. would get very depressing as well.

Originally posted by Joseph_Stalin
You'd get depressed with monotony of certain things. Out-living you rgrandchildren and great-grandchildren, etc. would get very depressing as well.

Not if they took the drugs as well.

Yea if they all took it to they would all live a long time as well. Then after a few 1000's years your family would be pretty big, could spend another 5000 years just getting to know them all and by then you would have even more!

Always would be new stuff being made that could be fun, or you could spend 10,000 years just looking at old stuff from the past. Could move around and see stuff all over the planet and by the time your with all that we might have space travel figured out and you can go fly to another planet. Always something to do.

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You'd get depressed with monotony of certain things. Out-living you rgrandchildren and great-grandchildren, etc. would get very depressing as well.

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Good point. But say hypothetically only you took it. The above might just happen (depression I mean).

If this were to happen, I'd be a happier man.

The religious folk? It wouldn't be pretty. Some people's lives revolve around the potential existence of a God. There would probabaly be some form of mild chaos.

Why would you be happier?

Because I already believe it, and now I wouldn't have to argue as much

K so what do you believe.

I do not believe that God exists.

ok what else do you believe.

In regards to what

What is your religion, how we were made.

Suffocate is an atheist (I believe, from what he's said) so he actually doesn't believe in anything. Being an atheist, you lack belief.

Originally posted by Evanescent
What is your religion, how we were made.

I'm an Athiest. I believe evolution is responsible for what we've become today. I also am uninterested in arguing the valididty of evolution with you, if that was your intent. Religious arguments are never productive.