Thread: Discuss posted members' pictures

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I'm done talking about this Cleansing Fast though...and tired of trying to justify or defend my choices or actions to people here, k?

So let's get back on topic, shall we?

Yup.

Ninja, you have a WTF dobok .

*Boos*

I'm not WTF, that stuff is crap. I just like the pullover gi because I don't have to fix it every five minutes.

*ready for another martial arts dream* ty ninja

Originally Posted by ninja9578

I'm not WTF, that stuff is crap. I just like the pullover gi because I don't have to fix it every five minutes.

Hah, tell me about it . This velcro crap falls apart after a minute or two of combat, you kind of disrobe as you fight. But it's standard, can't do anythign about it...

Originally Posted by Aquanina

You people are idiotic. It's called a CLEANSING DETOXIFYING FAST.

Sure, and cutting yourself is liberation of retained dicellular fluids. Yay, for doublespeak. In all seriousness though, euphemism does not validate something.

I'm not starving myself, in fact, I'm forcing myself to drink gallons of nasty lemon/maple syrup/pepper drink heh.

Oh dear me. [/sarcasm]

Anorexia is a DISEASE it's not something you just have for ten days. Ok? So don't be so ignorant.

...Seriously? So if I puke after meals, but it's only temporary, it's not bulimia? That's good to now. I should probably tell my friend who "had" the flu... he only had it for 8 days so he didn't actually have the flu. And I have to go let someone know that they don't have cancer yet because she's only had it for 9 days.

In all seriousness though, anorexia is not eating. So when you don't eat... that's anorexia. Saying "Lol but i love eating" doesn't mean you don't have anorexia. I suppose your claim that you don't have it would mean that you have anorexia AND are taking part in what Freud would call the defense mechanism of "denial."

All that stuff that's built up in digestive system. It's nasty. Detox is good for anyone, it's very healthy, and it gives you lots of energy to be rid of all those nasty toxins.

Disclaimer to impressionable females (and any others): Detox is not good for everyone, it's not very healthy, and it deprives you of energy, muscle mass, fat (people need some fat... that's why we have it...), etc.

They say that you lose about 5lbs on the diet, just in the stuff you get rid of that has collected in your digestive tract. Yeck!!

Um, more like 5 pounds lost of muslce mass?

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I wouldn't pay any attention to that.

I agree, avoid the advice of real doctors and pay attention to the claims that something is good made by those who are trying to get you to do that something.

I own the book for the Master Cleanse, you can even find it online.

A book! It's even online! I have been foiled! Hold on, let me whip out my KKK book. That's right, it's PUBLISHED. Whites are superior. It's in a book! Combat that, m'lady!

Also known as The Lemonade Diet. It's full of useful information, and is proven to work at detoxing. It's worked for me and thousands of others...that's all I need to know.

Is this kind of like how bloodletting was "proven to work" at curing diseases for "thousands of people?"

O, your body DOES have a nice system of detoxing

She's right. It's called urination and defecation.

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but there is about 5 lbs worth of crap in your intestines right now

That's right... there is a lot of shit in your intestines. Literally.

.without getting one of those colon cleanse things...which sound scary as I heard your intestines can rupture from the water pressure in there.

It's funny how you starve yourself for 10 days then say "omg colon cleanses are scary!" Maybe if you go to some mexican third world doctor who sticks a fire hose up your ass. But really.


Honestly here, if you want to kill yourself slowly, so be it. But I won't sit here as you try to make it seem appealing to other impressionable people here. People: this is not a good way to lose weight. You will lose a lot of weight, and fast. That doesn't mean it's healthy at all.

This is all kind of appaling to me, to be honest. I seriously recommend asking a doctor. I mean, you can always ignore what s/he says. But I don't doubt that you will say "yeah, I no better than you, Mr. I-actually-went-to-a-university-and-have-a-degree-and-an-education-on-the-subject. I mean, christ, I looked on wikipedia and my sorority sisters told me it worked! I also bought a book about it! So go to hell!"

wow you really have no life lol

Good choice, go with that when you don't have any valid or legitimate response

In all seriousness here, I'm just trying to keep you from killing yourself. I mean, your kind of behavior is what fuels anorexia in the united states and throughout the world. Other anorexics are out there saying how much they love food and they "hate not eating." Just because you would "rather be eating" doesn't mean it's not anorexia. You have already demonstrated that you have a perverse image of what is considered a "healthy weight." This type of behavior is what has other girls considering pseudoscientific claims about the "detoxifying" properties of diets. News Flash: The stuff that comes out of you WILL look gross and alien when what comes out of you is your bones (which your body feeds on for calcium and other minerals), muscle (which your body feeds on for protein), and your organs. When you don't eat, your body starts to eat your own damn heart. So we should just make it clear here to anyone who thinks these diets are good that they are very, very unhealthy and you are simply in denial if you say "it's a 10-DAY FAST, not ANOREXIA."

Good day.

PS: Someone maybe should split this thread.

THIS POST IS NOT DIRECTED AT AQUANINA, SO IF YOU ARE THIS PERSON, PLEASE DO NOT READ NOR REPLY.

Originally Posted by wasup

News Flash: The stuff that comes out of you WILL look gross and alien when what comes out of you is your bones (which your body feeds on for calcium and other minerals), muscle (which your body feeds on for protein), and your organs. When you don't eat, your body starts to eat your own damn heart.

Nice post Wassup. You are quite sagacious for being only 17 years old. (That's a complement and not a knock on your age.)

Indeed, things will come out of the body, even if a person doesn't eat because it will break down stored fat, muscle and everything else it can convert to energy in its desperate state. Moreover, the drinking of acidic concentrate is a sure fire cocktail for the creation of ulcers and other horrible, debilitating ailments. Someone engaging in such behavior will not suffer immediately but later in his or her years, e.g., in his or her 30's. At this time, the effects will manifest, and it'll be ugly--ugly because of poor health and excessive weight gain!

As for trying to persuade a certain person to "see the light," the cause is lost because of hubris and self conceit. Someone in such a state has a closed mind, and to open it, it would require one to "pry it open," which is too much of an energy expenditure and a waste of time. Free will should always be encouraged. Nevertheless, the benefit of replying to such a post is the possible persuasion of others to abandon such health defeating behavior, which in an economic sense, provides the world with more capital. And in a spiritual sense, provides people with the ability to help others because someone in poor health requires others to help them, thus becoming a burden to society. This is not to be cold hearted, but the health care system is being taxed, so it is our responsibility to ensure that those being helped are not impeding quality help to those who need it.

Anyway, there’s my two silver dollars.

All the best!

It has been shown in many empirical, scientific studies that fasting can improve health and help to eliminate a variety of diseases. Although some fasting methods use juice or various amounts of food, the health of such methods is questionable, according to Dr. Joel Fuhrman. A true fast, he contends, consists of an intake solely of water, and can last (healthily) for extended periods of time when undertaken with the correct knowledge. Any fasts of such nature should be preceded and followed by a healthy diet, and should also be supervised by a knowledgeable physician to make sure that deficiencies of any nutrients do not take place and retract from the healthful benefits of such a fast.

Some doctors believe that pure water fasting can not only detoxify cells and rejuvenate organs, but can actually cure such diseases and conditions as cardiovascular disease, rheumatoid arthritis, asthma, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, colitis, psoriasis, lupus and some other autoimmune disorders when combined with a healthy diet. They believe that "Fasting is Nature's Restorer." There is empirical evidence to corroborate the beliefs of these scientists.

Recent studies on mice show that fasting every other day while eating double the normal amount of food on non-fasting days led to improved insulin and blood sugar control, neuronal resistance to injury, and health indicators superior to mice on 40% calorie restricted diets. Alternate day calorie restriction may prolong lifespan and attenuate diseases associated with inflammation, oxidative stress and aging.

As for wasup's ignorant claims about the body feeding on your organs...

Glucose is the body's primary fuel source, and is essential for the brain's functioning. When denied glucose for more than 4-8 hours, the body will turn to the liver for glycogen, a storage form of glucose, to be used for fuel. A process called glycogenolysis converts glycogen into a usable form of fuel. At this point, the body will also use small amounts of protein to supplement this fuel. This fuel will last for up to 12 hours before the body needs to turn to muscle stores of glycogen, lasting for a few more hours. If glucose is still denied at this point, muscle wasting is prevented by temporarily switching to fat as the fuel source. Using a process called Gluconeogenesis, fat is converted into ketone through catabolism. Ketones, while not sugars, are able to be used by the brain as a fuel source as long as glucose is denied.

As a protective biomechanism, many toxins are stored within fat. During catabolism, these toxins are liberated and then released into the blood stream. The body will continue to use fat for as long as there is fat to consume. The body will generally indicate to the faster when fat levels are running extremely low (less than 2%) with an increased urge for food. Fasts are usually broken long before this point.

If the fast is not broken, starvation will begin to occur, as the body begins to use protein for fuel. It will begin with the least important proteins, then muscles, and eventually organs. Death may occur before the body turns to organs as a fuel source however.

Get a clue before attempting to lecture me.

Originally Posted by Delphinus

lol, agreed. Almost everyone at my school either drinks or does drugs (Im talking 90&#37 So I can tell just by sight.

Drinks Alcohol OR does drugs? What is wrong with people that they fail to see Alcohol as just another Drug *nods head* Alcohol IS drugs. Harddrugs in fact and off all drugs the one that should be worried about most. There my Universal Message of the moment has been put out again The power of Repetition. Works everytime.
And indeed, Guerilla you look Blazed beyond the Milkyway. What a mighty good plant that blessed you. And there's plenty more where that came from.

And Jezussss, I turn my back for 3 days and all of this passes me by. 5 extra pages. What have you folks been discussing?
You didn't happen to say nasty things about me in my absence now have you?

Oyeah and Mes when are we going to mary?

Yay Jd posted, ya lil cutie x

Originally Posted by marlie

Yay Jd posted, ya lil cutie x

Thank yah!

Originally Posted by SKA

Drinks Alcohol OR does drugs? What is wrong with people that they fail to see Alcohol as just another Drug *nods head* Alcohol IS drugs. Harddrugs in fact and off all drugs the one that should be worried about most. There my Universal Message of the moment has been put out again The power of Repetition. Works everytime.
And indeed, Guerilla you look Blazed beyond the Milkyway. What a mighty good plant that blessed you. And there's plenty more where that came from.

questions that have been plaguing me for quite a long time! The kids/adults who go around saying "DRUGS ARE BADDDD!!!" My question to them is, have you ever taken a tylenol? and advil? Because those are drugs too.


And as far as wasup and aquanina's discussion about the 10 day detox. I know a few people who have done this, and they were fine after. My mother even did it. I can tell you that the first time she did it, she didn't have much energy at all (no surprise there), but other than that she looked fine after. The second time she did it, she only did it for 7 days because she didn't want to do it anymore because she was too hungry. In my eyes, I didn't even understand why she needed to do it, but she said it was a body detoxification or something. If you are doing it for that purpose solely, then good luck. But I think that if your purpose behind it is to lose weight, please just eat healthier and exercise. And if you claim that you also do it because you want the detoxification, still eat healthier and then drink a lot of fluids. I'm sure it will be a much more enjoyable time if you have fewer small healthy meals to give you energy, as a opposed to none at all. And don't forget to drink a lot of your lemonade, tea, or cranberry juice.

Such a busy thread.

Minnie is adorable.

Ninja - Your pics are finally getting more clear.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

As for wasup's ignorant claims about the body feeding on your organs...



Get a clue before attempting to lecture me.

I will counter your wiki-quote with a wiki-quote.

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Not to mention that that "disclaimer" was actually specific to the very section you quoted.

Let me repeat myself: I can go on the internet and get whatever information I want to feed my convoluted, perverted sense of facts. Again, shall I quote the KKK website? I mean, if it's online... it must be true, right?
Go see a doctor. No matter what you say, wikipedia is not going to be better than a real doctor. Doctors actually have an education in this field. It is incredibly arrogant and close-minded of you to pretend that you know better than the vast array of real doctors with real educations on the subject. You are trusting fasting books because they tell you to trust these doctors whom they tell you are trustworthy. Sign me up!

Originally Posted by wasup

Doctors actually have an education in this field. It is incredibly arrogant and close-minded of you to pretend that you know better than the vast array of real doctors with real educations on the subject. You are trusting fasting books because they tell you to trust these doctors whom they tell you are trustworthy. Sign me up!

I don't pretend to know more than doctors. Plenty of doctors are behind the detoxing fasts and cleanses. You seem to pretend to know more than everybody, and claim that this fast is actually anorexia and is horrible and blah blah blah. I think what you are doing is even worse, because you have no clue what you're talking about and trying to tell me I have anorexia or something, when you couldn't be more wrong...or idiotic. It's just a fast. Get the fuck over it.

Now quit being an insufferable little piss-ant and leave me the hell alone. Get it?

(and we wonder why DV is going into the shitter)

WHAT is going on in this thread?? I had to check twice to make sure I was in the right one. Enough already you guys.

Go to Extended Discussion. Make a new thread. Discuss issue there.

Simple.

Oh, and Jdea, the castle and landscape look horribly familiar. Don't try to find me.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Go to Extended Discussion. Make a new thread. Discuss issue there.

Simple.

Indeed it would be, doubt they'll do it though. ¬_¬

Originally Posted by kichu

WHAT is going on in this thread?? I had to check twice to make sure I was in the right one. Enough already you guys.

Hey Kichu y'like ma pictures??!?

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

Hey Kichu y'like ma pictures??!?

I was actually just gonna go look for the 'post pics of yourself' thread. Gimme a few minutes.

Make a snap judgement. Go on. Say you hated them.

You don't need to see them. Be impulsive.



Thumbs up for prejudice.