Thread: Anyone have any ideas what this could mean?

I just recently started to pay attention to numeral significance in dreams. What would help a lot when it comes to trying to understand a dream is to gather associations that you make with the manifest dream content. For example. What associations do you make with a menorah, the person in your dream, a candle, and the number seven? I think you already explained the number seven part, it seems to have to do with the customer at your work, but what comes to mind when you think of the customer at work? Answer these and I'll see if we cant string some associations together!

I don't really have any connections with a manorah. I'm Christian, not Jewish. I've been trying to think of what 7 could mean, but I can't think of anything off hand. In church, we were talking about how candlesticks represent holders of the light of God, like apostles. But seven sticks that hold 7 each is the thing that makes me wonder. Hmmm. Maybe it's not 7, but 49. That's how many candles the manorahs would hold total.

I'm quite interested in dream-maths but the caveat is it's too easy to get carried away with maths and losing personal meaning. If your mind is likely to connect 7 and 49 like that then you're probably onto something. If not, then the interpretation is likely to be elsewhere.

The dream was most probably triggered with previous day's processing (PDP) as you say but that's not to take away the role of the unconscious, which was processing the "7" stuff in your dream. Sounds like it was telling you about 7 people, but perhaps not. It could refer to anything that 7 means to you such as something that happened 7 years ago or when you were 7 years old for example. Run with what feels right, at least that's my method.

Let's see. The summer when I was seven, I got cut on my knee in 2 places right next to the other. The short one got 1 stitch, the long one got 7. I always remembered that because I was 7, going on 8, that summer.

7 years ago, I was married in May, got pregnant a couple of months later with my first child, and that winter, my Grandma died. When my father-in-law died this last November, I got thinking a little about Grandma again.

Originally Posted by gyerenfeli

Let's see. The summer when I was seven, I got cut on my knee in 2 places right next to the other. The short one got 1 stitch, the long one got 7. I always remembered that because I was 7, going on 8, that summer.

7 years ago, I was married in May, got pregnant a couple of months later with my first child, and that winter, my Grandma died. When my father-in-law died this last November, I got thinking a little about Grandma again.

The dream could hark back to any or none of those. Do any of these events sound connected to the dream at all? Are there any feelings in common?

I just ran over to my computer to write this post! You are by far the best person qualified to interpret your dream but I really think this may lead you in the right direction. While reading, Psychology and Alchemy, by C.G. Jung, he notes that seven, "stands for the highest stage of illumination and would therefore be the coveted of all desire." He later adds that, "if this interpretation-that the seventh represents the highest stage of illumination-is correct, it would mean in principle that the process of integrating the personal unconscious was actually at an end." Since I gather that you are religious, specifically Christian, I think that seven as the highest stage of illumination could lead you in the right direction. For more information check out the link provided, the picture as well as others are featured in Jung's, Psychology and Alchemy. The case study deals with the number seven on several occasions. I regret to say I haven't had time to try and uncover the latent meaning of the dream. Until a later time I hope this helps.
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/20...cross-as-bait/

Originally Posted by ZNOFZ

I just ran over to my computer to write this post! You are by far the best person qualified to interpret your dream but I really think this may lead you in the right direction. While reading, Psychology and Alchemy, by C.G. Jung, he notes that seven, "stands for the highest stage of illumination and would therefore be the coveted of all desire." He later adds that, "if this interpretation-that the seventh represents the highest stage of illumination-is correct, it would mean in principle that the process of integrating the personal unconscious was actually at an end." Since I gather that you are religious, specifically Christian, I think that seven as the highest stage of illumination could lead you in the right direction. For more information check out the link provided, the picture as well as others are featured in Jung's, Psychology and Alchemy. The case study deals with the number seven on several occasions. I regret to say I haven't had time to try and uncover the latent meaning of the dream. Until a later time I hope this helps.
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/20...cross-as-bait/

There are indeed meanings attached to each of the numbers. These are cultural meanings which may or may not apply to any individual.

I often dream of the number 7 but in my case it relates back to my being 7 years old. I'm a great fan of Jung but I think he makes dreams just a little too impersonal for my liking.

Originally Posted by Burned up

There are indeed meanings attached to each of the numbers. These are cultural meanings which may or may not apply to any individual.

I often dream of the number 7 but in my case it relates back to my being 7 years old. I'm a great fan of Jung but I think he makes dreams just a little too impersonal for my liking.

At the moment I agree Burned Up, yet at the very least I feel that Jung was able to improve the ideas of Freud quite a bit by removing the concept of fixed symbolism for each object, such as all airplanes, pens, and swords are symbolic of the phallus. Reading Psychology and Alchemy however is giving me a hard time since the associations hes drawing with mythology are almost impossible to follow through to the end. The whole concept seems highly stretched and like you mentioned, completely impersonal. The dream intrepreation forum isnt the best place to be discussing the methodolgy of interpreation so I apologize since what I really want is to try and do is figure out what gyerenfeli dream means.

Back to the dream at hand and your comment Burned Up, It is important to relate the number seven ideas that you find significant in your life, whether seven is an important year or symbol. It is also important to remember that you may not know what seven stands for at all! For at times the brain picks things up completely oblivious to the conscious mind. I also still reserve the belief that dreams can have aspects of acute randomness, meaning the number seven could have little significance to the overall story of the menorahs. I do believe that the number seven is very possibly associated with religion due to the fact that there were seven menorahs, the menorah inherently being a symbol of faith. Also the fact that you are Christian adds to my connection between the numeral seven and religious faith. I am curious to see what you make of the ideas that have been suggested thus far.

7 could indeed be religious, yes. God made the world in 7 days. (Well, 6 because he rested on the 7th). We still have a 7 day week. Then there were the 7 seals in the book of Revelation. Jesus said we should forgive 70 times 7 times. Yes, it's a number that for some reason appears many times in religion (well, Judeo-Christian religion at least).

I wonder if we're actually helping gyerenfeli here

Man, I did a great post, but before I could post it, I guess I ended out logged out. I'll see if I can remember what I'd typed. The 7 years old and 7 years ago suggestion was a good one, but I can't see how those things would relate to the dream. The other stuff though, about 7 being the highest illumination did the trick, and I think I know what the dream was saying now.

The green relates to the dream, the blue is relating to my life:

The manorahs indicated my faith, the religious aspect of my life. I have recently made a goal of increasing my spirituality by reading scripture, at least one chapter a day. 7 is my goal of spiritual perfection. I know there's a lot more than just reading scripture to get to perfection, and I plan to work on the other things as well. The fact that I only saw 3 or 4 of the 7 manorahs was possibly meant to tell me that I'm about half way to my goal! There are things I have to work on, but it's good to see where I stand.

Thanks for all the comments that helped me get it figured out. I'll look at that link and see what more it says. And for Christmas, I'm getting a book that goes over numeric meanings in the scriptures, so that may help more as well.

I didn't notice that you only "saw 3 or 4" menorahs! This is further evidence that your interpretation may very well be the correct one. I suggest reading this passage, http://books.google.com/books?id=SWv...HRv3WSLJUzlEog, as you will see the dreamer only goes to "about the 3rd or 4th floor". I cant say I entirely understand its significance since I know hardly anything about alchemy although I do know that it has a spiritual aspect to it. To further understand the meaning it would take some reading.. and then some rereading . Despite this I really think that a lot has been discovered about this dream! And hope this last bit of writing helps just a tad more!