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      news: magic mushrooms may have positive effect for up to 12 months

      http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews...27105120080701


      good news, they finally realised its positive uses, rather then demonize it and say its evil and makes you hallucinate forever. I'm glad science is slowly telling the governments to back off natural drugs, many of them have important medical use such as mushrooms or mdma, or even lsd.

      The test 'subjects' felt positive effects for up to 14 months after ingesting the mushrooms.

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      I can testify of the positive long term effects of Psychedelics such as Mushrooms and LSD myself. I and MANY many others.
      I found them to be psychologicaly VERY therapeutical as Psychedelics (Mainly Mushrooms, LSD and DMT in my personal experience) reveal you to yourself; You can see into places of your Psyche, both ugly and beautyfull places, that your Ego's Pride, Conservatism and Fearfull Ignorance Normally, in our usual waking state consciousness, would restrict us from seeing.

      This gives rise to changing the bad traits and psychological problems that have been brought to one's attention in Psychedelic experiences. Also, because next to these ugly places also the beautyfull hidden places in one's Psyche are revealed, the Psychedelic experience HUGELY promotes Artistic Creativity by giving unearthly strong and magical inspiration. Also Re-discovering and re-connecting with these beautyfull, previously hidden places gives an enormous feeling of mental/emotional wellbeing that indeed can last for many months onwards if not forever.

      I can speak nothing but intensly good of the (RESPONSIBLE and SOUVEREIGN!) use of Psychedelics. Our western governments may tell a 1000 lies of what's so bad about LSD, Mushrooms or Marijuana: I had first hand experience with these Spiritualy marvelous substances and have found them to have an intensely positive effect on my general view of life, additude in life and mostly my emotional wellbeing. It's just like Psychedelics feed a very joyfull being in me. A part of me which is joyfull, blessed, creative, clearminded and all things positive; My inner Child as some would say.

      That's why these Psychedelics are precious to me, no matter what mentally diseased, negative views of these Substances oh so many people might have and wish to have me believe.

      Governments cannot continue their prohibitionism of Spiritual development and neither can they continue misguiding the people with lies about them. More and more people turn their interrest to them, as our Authorities loose more and more Credibility and Souvereignity everyday.

      It seems to me that a worldwide human interrest in Psychedelics, Free Spiritualism, Pre-christian traditions, Divination and Dreammagic(Lucid Dreaming) is growing hugely lately and not the harshest worldwide prohibitionist DEA-withchunt could stop the people from reaching spiritual heights by the grace of Psychedelics.
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      That's amazing.

      Now government legalize cannabis, please.

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      psychedelics to me, are spiritual drugs. however, there are strings attached.

      psychedelics can artificially open your mind to things you haven't seen before. you however, lack the real spiritual awareness to understand all that is happening. in the past spiritual people using these drugs could become disillusioned into believing false prophesies and false visions. because they lacked the spiritual awareness to understand the reality and unreality of their psychedelic experience.

      psychedelics are not a substitute for real spiritual growth. and they can dampen your spiritual growth if you become dependent on them.

      they are the steroids of the mind.

      psychedelics have however helped introduce people to a strange new world they were currently unable to experience on their own. I think this should be their only purpose spiritually speaking, an introduction into the strange. after that, you should really learn these strange worlds exist within your being and you need nothing but your own mind to reach them.

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      Quote Originally Posted by EchoSun13 View Post
      That's amazing.

      Now government legalize cannabis, please.
      The people prohibiting Psychedelic drugs are the economic elite corrupting politicians with conveniently huge cashflows. The big mega-businesses such as Pharmacuitical companies and Oil Companies see many Psychedelic drugs as a threat to their monopoly position in the marketplace; Most traditional psychedelics have great Psycho-therapeutical and physically cleansing healing-properties while having non of the adverse health effects most traditional pharmacuitical medicines used today and thus they have alot of medicinal potential. This would put their foul Opiate-based "medications" out of business.

      Marijuana is prohibited by the same people for the same reason but also the Oil industry sees Marijuana as a competative threat to their business: Marijuana plants yield oil inferior to crude, scarce earthoil in being VERY easy to produce and ecologically harmless to produce, yielding a very effective fuel of an infinite amount. And since Marijuana, Mushrooms, DMT and LSD are fairly easy to rediculously easy to grow/make/find by anyone it is impossible for these corporates to monopolise this business, they see no profit in engaging in these substances themselves. Anyone could grow/make/find it so why would they buy it from them right?

      Basically the laws to prohibit these drugs (marijuana, psilocybin mushrooms, mescaline cacti, LSD and DMT) were made by corporates to effectively irradicate any competition to their monopoly businesses.
      NO these laws have NOTHING to do with human wellbeing. Purely greed. And Politicians that make our LAWS will make whatever rediculously unrightious, inhumane laws that these money smighting corporates demand from them.

      So bottomline even the laws are based on profit interrests rather than humanitairian interrests. So for Cannabis to become legal we need to make an economical warfare uppon those that prohibit it. A war that, to these politically influential businesses (mainly the Oil and Pharmacuitical business) makes it more profitable to legalise these psychedelics and economically devastating to continue their current, dishonoust businesses.

      Only then I see the right climate for Cannabis and the other psychedelics to become legal.
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      I agree with this, but the government is silly.
      They could make some tax on weed like tobaco, we could all be happy.
      The fatcat government can have their gross tax money and I can have my drugs and be happy and free.
      I also see it as their way of having more power over us, I'm going to guess that have of all the government smokes pot.
      Why do you think Goerge Bush is so stupid?

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      Bush isn't stupid, he acts dumb to fool the people to thinking he is incapable of running the nation, he is well aware of what he does, and he is a very intelligent person. He does this to draw sympathy from dumb old conservatives, and he's doing a damn good job getting sympathy from idiots, which in turn, they vote for mccain.

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      Maybe...

      And ahh Mccain...No.

      Im not a republic, And I do not like Barrack.

      But I think if Bush leaves this economy will grow better.

      Sorry for bashing Bush, but he isn't the best president ever.

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      Don't be sorry for bashing him, I don't like him either, he is the worst president, and in second place comes nixon. I'm technically a Democrat, but im more of an old school republican mixed with some democratic beliefs.

      I'm pretty much a libertarian, except for a few issues like Gay marriage which most libertarians say leave it to the states, which doesn't make sense...if one state makes it legal, and another makes it illegal, its kind of dumb if you ask me.

      Anyways, lets not get side-tracked

      I'm SO glad this article even made it to mainstream 'news' I'm shocked that they are telling the truth about psilocybe now after 60 years of propaganda saying it makes you 'go crazy'

      I do admit, it is NOT FOR EVERYONE, some people cannot handle it, they aren't mentally ready for it. I personally took mushrooms twice, and both times had a bad experience.....well it wasn't entirely bad but, some parts were nice...it was a learning experience really. For me LSD was alot more 'calm' and...easy to handle..in my opinion its easier to withstand then mushrooms.

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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      Don't be sorry for bashing him, I don't like him either, he is the worst president, and in second place comes nixon. I'm technically a Democrat, but im more of an old school republican mixed with some democratic beliefs.
      I just have to ask... where does Jimmy Carter come in that list?

      Also, I personally don't care if the government has drugs like this made illegal or not. I guess if people want to use it, it should be legal, so long as there is some regulation. If kids want to get a hold of it, they would have to ask their parents, but otherwise it shouldn't be illegal to carry, or use in one's home or in designated places. If it's allowed in public places, like restaurants, then that's stupid.

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      Carter? no idea...maybe 5th worst?

      But I like your idea, but I highly am against drugs in public, drugs should be done AT HOME.

      why?

      Idiots using drugs in public would make a bad name for drugs, making them illegal once again, in turn creating a black market again.

      If drugs were legalized, such as heroin, cocaine....the drug war would be over, if the government can sell pure uncut heroin and cocaine at a lower price then the black market, who would the drug users turn to to purchase it? the Gov.

      Then the black market would lose customers, trust, and respect..and their empire would slowly crumble. Also...the heroin and opium grown in afghanistan would be worthless if the governments can sell it lower then the afghanies sell it for, meaning this:

      If the terrorist #1 supply of money is cut short....(opium)...they would not have money to finance their terror attacks, and terrorism would really take a severe blow to the head.

      But of course this won't happen under any idiot administration in this country, or any country.

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      It's funny, Drugs like opium, can start a war.

      I do agree that drugs should be done at home, but I like smoking at the beach.

      I like being in nature while smoking the earth, weed, Im kind of a hippy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      If the terrorist #1 supply of money is cut short....(opium)...they would not have money to finance their terror attacks, and terrorism would really take a severe blow to the head.

      But of course this won't happen under any idiot administration in this country, or any country.
      They don't want to end the 'drug war', 'war on terror', etc. etc. Its "good for beezneez" as they say. They may be scumbags but they're not stupid.

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      I know exactly what you mean Semja, they keep the war on drugs flowing, so that the war on terror will never end, meaning their military contract will never end...so their military buddies can be happy.

      What a wonderful world.

      Oh and Echo, you toke outside? I usually stay inside when doing that, I kinda get a little vertigo when outdoors with cannabis for some odd reason.

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      I know what you mean, I get a little weird when I toke a bowl outside but I love how beautiful it is...


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      Yea but, I don't get a little weird, I feel like dizzy outdoors, I have a fear of big open area's and pot seems to amplify it, unless I take a xanex or something lol.

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      Im closterfoubic,I think thats how you spell it, and Im afraid of big spaces...Life sucks for me.

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      wow so your afraid of small and large spaces? that stinks

      heres a to make you feel better

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      I feel better now! yay.

      Yep life does stink when you live in a big house and sleep in a tiny room.

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      I find any drug that alters the mind, or one's perception, repulsive. I. Just. Do. Even simple medicines like Tylenol. Call me crazy, but I believe the mind is a temple, and shouldn't be altered.

      We are already equipped with all we need to experience whatever we wish, but not whenever we wish. There is an obvious evolutionary purpose to not let spill the nonsense of the dream into the perception of reality. These drugs... Most sway the mind into directions not intended at times not meant.

      I'm sorry for trying to burst your drug bubble, guys, but I thought I'd retch if I didn't submit a post that wasn't pro-drug.
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      That's ok man, Hey my whole family hates drugs, my bestfriend hates them too...
      I don't care if someone hates them I like them and I don't care what you say you aren't being rude so I don't care.
      We are all free men protected by our minds youre opion is I hate drugs and mine is I love drugs...Whatever is whatever.

      sorry about that rant....

      it's peace...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      I find any drug that alters the mind, or one's perception, repulsive. I. Just. Do. Even simple medicines like Tylenol. Call me crazy, but I believe the mind is a temple, and shouldn't be altered.

      We are already equipped with all we need to experience whatever we wish, but not whenever we wish. There is an obvious evolutionary purpose to not let spill the nonsense of the dream into the perception of reality. These drugs... Most sway the mind into directions not intended at times not meant.

      I'm sorry for trying to burst your drug bubble, guys, but I thought I'd retch if I didn't submit a post that wasn't pro-drug.

      That's okay, everyone has their own body and life to live, and thats what makes us truly free, the liberty to choose any life we want, and I respect your opinion completely. We just have a different mindset or personality or something.

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      Yes, shrooms and LSD are fine for your body. My question is why you like escaping from reality so much?

      If shrooms and LSD is what you do, then so be it, but doesn't that seem...lame? What are your goals in life, beyond scoring a fat sack of shrooms?
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      Im not into shrooms or lsd.
      But my life does revolve around drugs, but I hate when people say that drugs can't make a person.
      I can do everything I want on drugs or not.
      Plus my goal in life is good for potheads.
      Im going to be a cheif...Munchies anyone?

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      I'm glad science is slowly telling the governments to back off natural drugs, many of them have important medical use such as mushrooms or mdma, or even lsd.
      The last two are synthesised in labs, they're not really natural...

      I'm open to the possibility that drugs are good. There is certainly a lot of propaganda and hypocriticla, contradictory stuff about drugs in law, largely due to the status of alcohol.
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