Thread: Offshore drilling?

Oh God yes, if it hinders the economic growth of the Middle East then I'm all for it. Only America can has the monies.

I said yes because I can't think of any reason not to exploit a source of revenue if it doesn't hurt anyone, which it wouldn't given the US's relatively strict environmental laws. However, I would like to make clear that such drilling would not produce anywhere near enough oil to rival Saudi Arabia, nor would it affect oil prices beyond the level of speculation for many years.

I'm not against all domestic drilling, but I think it's only a priority to certain lobbies who are eager to cash in one last chit before the next inauguration. Besides, the stuff will only get more valuable sitting down there, and presumably cheaper and cleaner to extract, assuming no one else goes after the same reservoirs from across our borders. The day will come when burning oil for fuel will seem as mad as using diamonds for gravel in your driveway.

anyone disturbed at all by the environmental impact?

Originally Posted by Matt5678

anyone disturbed at all by the environmental impact?

Of ANWAR drilling? Certainly. Of drilling off the Florida coast? What can survive there besides Floridians now? Certainly News of the Weird will require more due diligence and investigative reporting with their passing, but is that not a price we are willing to pay?

No offense, O.

I think if the Americans decide to drill of their shore then they should give the contracts to Saudi Companies, thats the least you can do y'know cuz you ppl control Saudi Arabia's Oil Fields and make a fucking huge profit from their biggest resource alot of which The Saudi People never see.

Or better yet, stop supporting the dictatorship in KSA and hand over control of their most important resource to the people, its their birthright.

Ya that'd be real nice.

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

Or better yet, stop supporting the dictatorship in KSA and hand over control of their most important resource to the people, its their birthright.

Ya that'd be real nice.

That's like asking a porn star to cut off his dick.

Start drilling you incompetent idiots!!

There's nothing in Anwar! It's a fucking swamp! And who gives a shit anyway?

US > Owls

I say drill, we are going to run out of oil eventually so we might as well drill now while we still are drilling, in the future to drill that oil would cost more if we abandonded hydrocarbons. Thats why we must drill it now.

Originally Posted by Matt5678

anyone disturbed at all by the environmental impact?

Not at all, there is no enviromental impact other then seeing the oil rig itself on the coast, oh noes its going to destroy 'the view'

Originally Posted by guerilla

I say drill, we are going to run out of oil eventually so we might as well drill now while we still are drilling, in the future to drill that oil would cost more if we abandonded hydrocarbons. Thats why we must drill it now.

Wow, that's the exact opposite of my reasoning. No way can I see either the value of that oil decreasing or the cost of extraction going up. Think that over just a little more.

And for Seis:
Conservation of natural resources > one-time liqidation

What we need to do is burn all the executives to oil companies alive and subsidize the transition to alternative fuels. Fuck more drilling, there is no "until we can make the transition" We can, right now.

Sigh....look at your gas price, if we don't drill it will go up, if we drill it goes down...simple as that...if you want to pay more at the pump then I don't know what to say to people like you..

Even if we switch to alternatives it wouldn't be enough to fuel our consumption.

If you combine electric vehicles, bio diesel, ethanol, and hydrogen cars

they probably would not be enough for every american to drive, I don't know if you haven't noticed but we are still in the hydrocarbon age and we can't just wish it away, we need to find what resources are left to use them, to reduce fuel prices most importantly.

I'm sorry but, if you don't want to drill you must be a democrat or insane.

No offense to the dems, I just am fed up with dem congress refusing to drill because of 'global warming' or other nonsense issues which mean nothing.

If it were up to the dems we would have a great depression and alternative fuels for people rich enough to afford those vehicles.

Don't get me wrong, the repubs are idiots also...im not siding with them, just on drilling though i agree with the repubs but on every other issue they are wrong.

How about we ditch Nevada for solar energy?

Seriously... I don't see anything wrong with off-shore drilling, and could have some minor positive effects, but they'll last a very short time, at the end of which the problem will be much worse. So while I approve, it can't be the only or anywhere near the major element in the campaign to bring down gas prices.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

And for Seis:

Conservation of natural resources > one-time liqidation

Not when the lack of those resources = Economic Phail.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Not when the lack of those resources = Economic Phail.

For once, I totally agree with Seis here.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Sigh....look at your gas price, if we don't drill it will go up, if we drill it goes down...simple as that...if you want to pay more at the pump then I don't know what to say to people like you..

What you mean, "people like me?" People that you strawman? I can do it, too, want to watch?

Killing babies means cheaper gas, simple as that. If you want to kill babies, then I don't know what to say to people like you.

Yeah, and we have taken over an entire country's gas so it all get delivered to this country practically free of charge to the oil companies, and gas is going up, so tell me how drilling means cheaper gas? Supply and Demand? That would work in a free market, but we live with a unified oil cartel.

Even if we switch to alternatives it wouldn't be enough to fuel our consumption.

If you combine electric vehicles, bio diesel, ethanol, and hydrogen cars

they probably would not be enough for every american to drive, I don't know if you haven't noticed but we are still in the hydrocarbon age and we can't just wish it away, we need to find what resources are left to use them, to reduce fuel prices most importantly.

Please look up, "Who killed the electric car?" KTHX

I'm sorry but, if you don't want to drill you must be a democrat or insane.

I'm not a democrat but I certainly am not sane.

No offense to the dems, I just am fed up with dem congress refusing to drill because of 'global warming' or other nonsense issues which mean nothing.

Right because the fact that there's a world record of toxins floating in our world that hasn't been matched since the creation of oxygen breathing organisms is a "non-sense issue" or perhaps the fact that since the invention of the airplane the sky has become 25% dimmer. Perhaps it's just non-sense that we'd be dislocating ecosystems to drill. You can't replace an ecosystem by growing a tree, an ecosystem contains millions of life-forms that work intricately together. The trees on this planet have kept this planet at healthy levels for sustaining life, without them the human race could not exist.

If it were up to the dems we would have a great depression and alternative fuels for people rich enough to afford those vehicles.

Ironic you say that out of blind supposition meanwhile a republican administration actually DID put us in a depression, twice.

Don't get me wrong, the repubs are idiots also...im not siding with them, just on drilling though i agree with the repubs but on every other issue they are wrong.

More right vs wrong non-sense. I've had enough of that.

I don't quite know where you're going with this killing babies thing...we just want oil companies to drill offshore which won't harm any millions of species...you are just blowing things out of proportion.

It wasn't related to something in reality, I'm just saying I can strawman you, too.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Not at all, there is no enviromental impact other then seeing the oil rig itself on the coast, oh noes its going to destroy 'the view'

It wouldn't even destroy "the view" because it's 50 miles offshore, where no one could even see it.

My answer is yes. I support the offshore drilling.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Sigh....look at your gas price, if we don't drill it will go up, if we drill it goes down...simple as that...if you want to pay more at the pump then I don't know what to say to people like you..

Your misunderstanding of the issue is impressive in its depth. If we drill, prices at the pump might drop seven cents for six months twenty-five years from now. You've fallen for the same trick Bush used to justify Iraq: say two things in close proximity, whether it's "Saddam" and "9/11" or "gas prices" and "offshore drilling," and people will assume a link exists, lying to themselves to save politicians the trouble. The real effects of drilling in the Gulf will be another check drawn on the taxpayers' account, made out to Haliburton et al., in exchange for warm, fuzzy feelings in the electorate, directed mainly at the GOP. It's an empty political move that does nothing to address the real issues.

Originally Posted by guerilla

No offense to the dems, I just am fed up with dem congress refusing to drill because of 'global warming' or other nonsense issues which mean nothing.

I know, how dare Obama propose practical action requiring individual initiative, when the situation clearly calls for a feel-good plan that greases some palms on K Street.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Not when the lack of those resources = Economic Phail.

Right, not under those conditions. When those conditions arise, we can talk about it. Right now:

expanding oil exploration at the expense of tourism and real estate = potentially damaging distraction from the real issues

Originally Posted by snoop

It wouldn't even destroy "the view" because it's 50 miles offshore, where no one could even see it.

My answer is yes. I support the offshore drilling.

Oh well then even better

and Tao...look at it from my POV...we will use less foreign oil, I want to use american oil, not saudi death oil.

All the wildlife out there can go to hell for all i care. Gimmie 98 cent gas like it was back in 1999!

Originally Posted by mini0991

All the wildlife out there can go to hell for all i care. Gimmie 98 cent gas like it was back in 1999!

Do you not understand that the offshore drilling won't have that kind of effect on prices?