Thread: Perceptual Time Dilation

That's a super cool post! Thanks . Maby you could combine that with something Sythix posted some time ago , NLP anchoring or something like that. Here's his thread, it's on the bottom.

Hey BillyBob,

Pretty interesting topic indeed. I always wonder at what rate other people see time. It might be that really stupid people actually think slowing in a way, that times goes faster for them.

However, I am quite sure perception of time can differ alot. It is true that when you are having fun, time flies. Aren't there cases of some super-meditating-monks that can slow their perception of time?

Only it would be hard to notice, once you get used to it... : /

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Originally Posted by Neruo

Aren't there cases of some super-meditating-monks that can slow their perception of time?
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Yeah those monks are the reason I'm trying to learn more about it.

Has anyone tried any of the above techniques yet? (I'm wondering if they'll actually work for others )


Anyway, thanks for the replies.

I had a pretty freaky experience with time while fire dancing about a year ago...

I was down by the beach in Australia. It was just me and a few friends with a sky full o stars and 3 planets in alignment. The entire feeling about that moment was just magical.

I was playing around with 2 training stave, working all the way out to my fingertips. I was in a kind of trance when I shifted to my big fire stave (the one in my avatar). I started to dance around and suddenly I felt like I was in bullet time in the matrix. All my moves came super slow and the roar of the fire was keeping my focus and thought patterns in what was happening right there and then.

Suddenly it was as if I started to aligned my thought patterns and feelings. It all happened very fast and unexpected but still all a very natural feel. I took my focus away from the fire stick and looked up at the sky full of stars. I instantly found one star to put my focus on and that was when I came in to a climax. My entire reality exploded with me and the star as 1 center together. I could not feel my body, but I felt like I was connected to the star somehow. As if it's life-force and my life-force connected in one glorious moment that lasted in a eternal instant.

I have tried to repeat my experience but I don’t think my mind is ready for something of that scale right now. After the experience I felt both drained and energized at the same time. I also had a bunch of weird experiences with the people around me during the weeks after that. Might go in to that Later… peace

Originally Posted by Raz

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WOW! I always thought that was just some lame RPG-videogame character, but now you say it, it is an actual picture! :0 lol!

Way cool by the way.

Originally Posted by BillyBob_001

Yeah those monks are the reason I'm trying to learn more about it.

Has anyone tried any of the above techniques yet? (I'm wondering if they'll actually work for others )
Anyway, thanks for the replies.
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I perform all of these techniques and more all the time. I don't think of them as techniques usually though... just things I do which have an effect? lol

I guess I was just good at something I didn't know about yet? :s

Fight or Flight is completely true but there is a science to it. Its all the adrenaline thats pumping through your body and speeds up your reaction time and reflexes.

Nice post

haven't tried them yet, as I just got to this topic (It has the same topic number as a topic I made which got deleted in the forum crash, so I got a "topic reply notification" with that topic name, and I haven't checked my email in a while.) It sounds really interesting though, and definitely worth trying. Anyways, did I understand correctly as you meditating every day for the last 2 years? How do you meditate, I can never figure out what to do as there is too much crap on the web, and half the stuff is a cheap sales pitch.

Time distortion with regards to slowing down perception of time is a skill I've often considered trying to learn. Too much I have the feeling that everything seems to be going by too fast. Having more time (perceived time) to simply think would be invaluable to me.

Here is a web page that delineates a method for entering a state of time distortion (slowing down time):
http://www.mind-course.com/time.html

I haven't tried it myself, but I think it's appropriate for the topic. Might be worth a try for anyone interested.

PenguinLord13, check out this website for meditation guidelines: http://www.wildmind.org/

I do the "Mindfulness Meditation" almost every night. I'm not an expert on meditation, but this technique works for me.

Originally Posted by Night

Fight or Flight is completely true but there is a science to it. Its all the adrenaline thats pumping through your body and speeds up your reaction time and reflexes.
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If I read this correctly then your saying that I'm confusing thinking fast with fight or flight. (just so we're on the same page )

What I meant by the "fight or flight" technique was that by putting a huge load on your conscious mind you actually start your bodies fight or flight response mechanism, thus making you think faster (when normally you wouldn't have went into it under the same circumstances)

Originally Posted by Night

Time distortion with regards to slowing down perception of time is a skill I've often considered trying to learn. Too much I have the feeling that everything seems to be going by too fast. Having more time (perceived time) to simply think would be invaluable to me.

Here is a web page that delineates a method for entering a state of time distortion (slowing down time):
http://www.mind-course.com/time.html

I haven't tried it myself, but I think it's appropriate for the topic. Might be worth a try for anyone interested.
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Thats pretty interesting. I have to admit that I find it hard to believe that its possible to slow a second of perception down into three entire minutes.
I was thinking more along the lines of 1 normal second=5 super perception seconds being the upper limit (like yogi limit).

Seems interesting though, I'll try it tonight

Originally Posted by Night

Anyways, did I understand correctly as you meditating every day for the last 2 years? How do you meditate, I can never figure out what to do as there is too much crap on the web, and half the stuff is a cheap sales pitch.
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I know Penter posted a website on this but Heres the one I learned mindfulness meditation from (thats the method I use nightly).

also here's another interesting site on meditation

Originally Posted by BillyBob_001

I have to admit that I find it hard to believe that its possible to slow a second of perception down into three entire minutes.
I was thinking more along the lines of 1 normal second=5 super perception seconds being the upper limit (like yogi limit).

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The idea that there are limitations creates limitations. Your reality is a idea based on what your brain gets from outside input. Some of your own posts about dreaming made me see that more clearly You teach more then you know billybob... And the more we learn about self, the more we realize how very little we really know... I guess that’s where meditation comes in... Unlearning, relearning, exploring new old paths.

Wizards first rule: people are stupid. (terry goodkind is a good teacher too)

I am stupid. I am a beginner. I am and always will be. Sometimes I think of something that makes me feel smart. Feeding my ego. Ego is a barrier that you can climb over, go around. I like my ego as long as it's not to much in the way. Ego is based on the fact that something is 'wrong'.

Being aware of when it's your ego doing the thinking and deciding how you feel about something is a never ending journey. This way of thinking can be very uplifting and a good driving force to make you learn more. There is no top or finite in learning. There is no limit, only ideas of limitation. Having physical limitations makes us 'think' we have mental limitations.

Good sites on meditation by the way. it's all so simple and allot of people meditate in their own way without realizing that it goes in to the category. It's all about observation and awareness. Ideas and visualization. Focus or unfocused. The techniques are so endless that I have started to see my entire life as one big meditation exercise.

Edit: Oh... and the most important thing to remember: Fear is the mnd killer. NO FEAR!

Originally Posted by BillyBob_001

If I read this correctly then your saying that I'm confusing thinking fast with fight or flight. (just so we're on the same page )

What I meant by the "fight or flight" technique was that by putting a huge load on your conscious mind you actually start your bodies fight or flight response mechanism, thus making you think faster (when normally you wouldn't have went into it under the same circumstances)

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No no, Im saying your right it 'slows' time. When your in a fight or doing something that gets your adrenaline going, it'll feel like much more time has past than what really has. Most street fights last around 15-30 seconds at most. In those type of fights or in other extreme activities youll get a big dose of adrenaline and your reflexes and reaction time enhance, and everything seems to move slower around you including time. So what may seem like a long fight or activity is likely a lot shorter.

That looks pretty interesting Penter. I don't know how possible this really is unless administered by an experienced hypnotist, buy it's true that limits are mostly set by our minds. Take the first guy who ran a 4 minute mile. Everyone thought it was impossible, but he pushed himself until he succeeded. After he succeeded, many others have run the 4 minute mile (I am not one of them though). It just goes to show. Also, thanks for the meditation links. I'll check them out.

Originally Posted by Raz

Edit: Oh... and the most important thing to remember: Fear is the mnd killer. NO FEAR! [/b]

you so got that from Dune!

Bob, you said when your brain is loaded with informatin you perceive time to go slower. That's so true. The first thing that comes to mind are my MagicMushroom experiences. When I was on mushrooms, an hour felt like 3 hours, i guess because so much stuff was going through my mind. I would look at the clock and see that only 5 minutes past and I would freak out.

Time definately is a human perception and it raises a lot of questions for me as to what time is and what's going on outside of our perceptions. I don't know about you guys..........i was reading SolSkye's Past, "Present, Future... The Eternal 'now' " thread.

Anyways, how slow have you been able to slow time?

I have done some experimentation with perceptual time dilation using the method of carefullly concentrating on everything, trying to predict what will happen, etc. on things like ping pong, or for floor hockey in gym...that kind of stuff, and it seems to have worked quite well, especially for ping pong . Though i can't conclusively say I was really slowing down my perception of time, it did do something.

Originally Posted by BillyBob

First I would just like to make it clear that
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This is much simpler than the last one and is useful for those times when you need longer to react (like when your in a fistfight trying to dodge your opponents blows or something):

1. When you see that your about to have to act quickly shift all of your awareness towards the object that your dodging/hitting/whatever.
2. Try to see every detail of what the object does/ try to predict what its going to do next. (if its a tennis ball and your opponent serves it to you, see it connect with his racket, then think about where its going to land, then see it, then think about moving your racket up to it. etc...) The key here is to flood your mind with conscious thoughts and take over your action with awareness. It should feel like your trying to speed up the frame rate of your eyes. (again, don't depend on your subconscious mind to think about where the balls going to land/ where to put the racket and such, you have to actually think)
3. continue to actively survey your target for as long as needed.

Anyway thats a couple of my techniques for time dilation. Anyone else have any of their own little ways to slow/speed time? (or just comments I guess )

Aww man XD I'll try this some time. I've been researching this too and will learn to control it. I will goddammit!!

I actually do this some times when i present a project in school

I was trying to read slow, and in my mind i was reading VERY slow. It felt like i took maybe 5 minuets to present, but i actually had only took 30 seconds. I was concentrating purely on talking slowly and reading the script i had wrote, almost to a point that I had blocked out almost everything else. Luckily I didn't get any points off because i had said everything I needed to.

Holy old thread batman!

I do this in school all the time. I find that the fewer amount of times I look at the clock, the faster the class goes by.