Thread: Aren't we all atheist? In a way.

A lack of belief in God or gods.
That means you do not believe in any god, therefore, a monotheist would not be an atheist in any way because they believe in God.
They may not believe in other religions gods, but they believe in their own.

Originally Posted by guitarboy

A lack of belief in God or gods.
That means you do not believe in any god, therefore, a monotheist would not be an atheist in any way because they believe in God.
They may not believe in other religions gods, but they believe in their own.

"god or gods" does not mean "all gods".

yes you are right, although I do believe this has been brought up several times. Someone who believes in God would be an atheist towards Zeus, Poseidon, Guan Yu, any other religion save Judaism and Islam (to an extent)

Originally Posted by SpecialInterests

Definition of atheism: A lack of belief in the existence of god or gods.
Wouldn't that mean if you deny the existence of another god from a different religion it would make you atheist in a way? Now... If only the unconvertible sheep theists could understand their own denunciation of all other possible gods, they might understand why true atheists denounce the existence of theirs.

No.

Atheism means literally "Without belief system".

If you have a belief system, more specifically a religious or theological one, then you are a theist.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

No.

Atheism means literally "Without belief system".

If you have a belief system, more specifically a religious or theological one, then you are a theist.

whut

are you suuuree thats what it literally means?

citation please.

Originally Posted by Omicron

whut

are you suuuree thats what it literally means?

citation please.

A - Without

Theo - Belief

Ism - System

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo

Theo is a given name, deriving from the Greek word Theos which means god.

Oh, my bad then.

A - Without

Theo - God

Ism - System

No god system. I.e. Religion.

https://www.msu.edu/~defores1/gre/ro...e_rts_afx2.htm

Wikipedia needs an update D:

I agree with A Roxxor in the technical definition (not necessarily the literal translation, but the generality...) Atheism is the lack of belief in any god whatsoever, not the disbelief in any given god.

Interestingly enough, if you go by the definition suggested by Special Interests, I'm one of the few people here who wouldn't be an atheist. Even compared to some pantheists, by, again, certain accepted definitions.

There is no such thing as pantheism.

There is a good quote which goes something like 'theists and atheists are really quite alike; theists don't believe in 1000 Gods, whereas atheists don't believe in 1001'.

Indeed, there's no such thing as pantheism, the word is pure fiction, not just fiction, it simply doesn't exist! Maybe you are reading the word pantheism right now, but that's all in your imagination. There's no such thing as pantheism.. you're seeing things!

Pantheism is the belief that God is the universe.

'God' does not mean 'universe'. The word for 'universe' is 'universe', and anybody who takes comfort from incorrectly renaming it 'God' is hopelessly confused by semantics.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Indeed, there's no such thing as pantheism, the word is pure fiction, not just fiction, it simply doesn't exist! Maybe you are reading the word pantheism right now, but that's all in your imagination. There's no such thing as pantheism.. you're seeing things!

Chayba you need to step up your game. You're too obvious.

Originally Posted by Xei

'God' does not mean 'universe'.

Funny how you, the atheist out of all people, insist on defining the concept of God, and at the same time, you claim that exact concept of God you just defined is retarded.

Can you really not see the irony in this?

Originally Posted by Xei

'theists and atheists are really quite alike; theists don't believe in 1000 Gods, whereas atheists don't believe in 1001'.

That is one of the best defenses of atheism I have ever come across. Theists relate to us far more than they admit.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That is one of the best defenses of atheism I have ever come across. Theists relate to us far more than they admit.

But suddenly; "All different ideas of God are just different interpretations of the nature of the one ultimate god"

WHAT NOW?

Originally Posted by Omicron

But suddenly; "All different ideas of God are just different interpretations of the nature of the one ultimate god"

Watch the reaction when you explain that to a room full of American Southern Baptists.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Watch the reaction when you explain that to a room full of American Southern Baptists.

You know, UM. I'm gonna do that.

In about one year, during mine and Sindred's USA tour. I'm gonna seriously do that.

Will I get lynched or something.

Originally Posted by Omicron

You know, UM. I'm gonna do that.

In about one year, during mine and Sindred's USA tour. I'm gonna seriously do that.

Will I get lynched or something.

If it were 1964 or something, you probably would. But now you would probably just get called a bunch of names and walk away without having convinced anybody.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Funny how you, the atheist out of all people, insist on defining the concept of God, and at the same time, you claim that exact concept of God you just defined is retarded.

Can you really not see the irony in this?

If we don`t define the concept God, you could call everything God.
You can explain a concept without believing in it. How is that strange?

Sure, but wouldn't it be much more logical to let the theists define the concept of God instead of the atheists?

It's like you're letting anti-scientists define science, instead of the scientists.. isn't it obvious that if you let anti-scientists define science that it can't possibly work out?

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Sure, but wouldn't it be much more logical to let the theists define the concept of God instead of the atheists?

It's like you're letting anti-scientists define science, instead of the scientists.. isn't it obvious that if you let anti-scientists define science that it can't possibly work out?

Well, the concept of 'God' is widly accepted to be a conscious, supernatural being. If God is not conscious or supernatural, how can it be 'God'?
Why is it better that theists create that concept?
Your anti-science comparison is poor because science has a clear definition, and is not supernatural.

Funny how you, the atheist out of all people, insist on defining the concept of God, and at the same time, you claim that exact concept of God you just defined is retarded.

Can you really not see the irony in this?

The whole point of words is that they have definitions.

If you don't understand this simple concept then please, just stop speaking, as it is futile.