Thread: Did Jesus "rise from the dead"

Jesus wrote in the dead sea scrolls that he wasn't the son of god and that his mother was not a virgin, but rather the best old ho in betleham.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.c...dline=s3i15643

Ok, joking aside.

http://www.ipci.com.au/literature/didjesusdie.html

Apparently the title of son of god has been used (in the dead sea scrolls) to refer to someone other than Jesus.

But does evidence matter to prove it against him? If there is no evidence for his super powers, there is no reason to even try to refute the claim. We know people don't walk on water, cure the blind by just touching them, and have super powers.

The resurrection of Jesus is all astrological symbolism.

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

The resurrection of Jesus is all astrological symbolism.

Are you referring to the !"##$%&# from Zeitgeist?

Why, yes I do little ones.
So...
He rose from the dead as a purified version of himself. Not a ghost-you could physically touch him. And I probably don't care if you have anything to contradict that with.
*covers ears*
LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

joking, joking, joking my children.

Is there any proof that Jesus existed anyway?

Jesus Christ.
*facepalm*

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Is there any proof that Jesus existed anyway?

Historicity of the Biblical Canon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1l6d10Fw1Q

Jesus is probably talked about in here briefly.


Also, http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...er/hojfaq.html, this is the historicity of Jesus faq.

I think he might have existed, as a cause for a writing about a "prophet" named Jesus, but certainly nothing in the bible about him is accurate in anyway. It is like people writing about Bonsay as the son of God. Obviously you exist, but not in that capacity.

I think that he existed and was a very wise man, but the whole son of God bit is more or less a metaphor. I was going to explain this but now I realize I'm way to high.

I just wanted to hear if there was any reson at all to beleive that Jesus actual ressurected himself. I mean that's a pretty big claim. I would expect that there'd be at least some kind of reasoning as to how he did it with as much as the churuch likes to use ridiculous logic to say that they proved a point.

Originally Posted by stonedape

I just wanted to hear if there was any reason at all to believe that Jesus actual resurrected himself.

Well, the funny thing is that when it was first proposed that Jesus resurrected, the people at the time said "maybe someone stole his body to make it look like he resurrected." They completely ignored the idea that it was just made up nonsense. Nothing about Jesus was recorded during his actual life time, in fact it wasn't until something like 100 years after his supposed death and resurrection that people started talking about it.

That's a good point. I really don't beleive he did this. Most of Jesus teachings had to do with understannding the Self. But you see he probably put it in a metaphor to begin with, which was then misunderstood, then written down a hundred years later and then after that mistranslated.

I was just in the mood for some crazy logic is to how he was able to do it.

Jesus the man did not rise from the dead.

He is a man that lived, discovered the truth, and spread it.

The Gospel stories are myths taken from ancient cultures, not literally true, and based in astrology.

The Resurection of Christ is a metaphor. He is alive! In everything, place, and person, Christ is. Learning to recognize Christ is the process of enlightenment.

Originally Posted by stonedape

This is a question maily directed toward people who beleive in spirituality, God, etc. but don't neccisarily agree with any religion.

Do you think that Jesus actually rose from the dead as claimed in the Bible? If so, what does this mean? Did his body come back to life after being dead, did he come back as some kind of ghost like figure? What do you base this belief on?

Outlook Doubtful

Originally Posted by stonedape

This is a question maily directed toward people who beleive in spirituality, God, etc. but don't neccisarily agree with any religion.

Do you think that Jesus actually rose from the dead as claimed in the Bible? If so, what does this mean? Did his body come back to life after being dead, did he come back as some kind of ghost like figure? What do you base this belief on?

Personally I think it's either a metaphor or complete bullshit.

The entire story of jesus is spiritual, from turning water into wine.. he means inside of us, similar to alchemy.. from lead up till gold..

Improving yourself.

He came back from a spiritual death to be reborn anew.