Thread: I laughed, then I wanted to cry

Originally Posted by Needcatscan

Does anyone else feel like these people desperately want to be children again? I mean granted, the carefree innocence of the childhood years is probably some of the most cherished times and memories in a person's life, but. . . I mean, damn.

Helly ya, I wish i was that naiive.

Yeah, it's just Santa Clause for adults.

Originally Posted by MrDoom

Yeah, it's just Santa Clause for adults.

It's more extreme than Santa Clause; these people want to literally jump into god's arms sucking their thumbs and be rocked to sleep.

BTW, nice quote Doom

Yeah. It really is sooo unfortunate, just this level of.. whatever. Just think how many more brain cells these people could have developed if they had let go of some of these fantasies as they grew into adults. There's a reason why 95% of the scientific community identifies as an atheist/agnostic.

But we can all definitely sympathize with wanting to see dead relatives. Then again... just become a good LD-er and you'll get essentially what you want.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

But we can all definitely sympathize with wanting to see dead relatives. Then again... just become a good LD-er and you'll get essentially what you want.

That is what I was thinking. If they would learn lucid dreaming, they could live out all of those fantasies on a regular basis. The baseball game with the legends could be a good lucid task of the month. The difference between doing it in Heaven and doing it in a lucid dream is that you can actually outplay Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle in a lucid. In a real setting, you will just suck and get laughed at.

Originally Posted by Needcatscan

It's more extreme than Santa Clause; these people want to literally jump into god's arms sucking their thumbs and be rocked to sleep.

BTW, nice quote Doom

That's... sort of offensive, not gonna lie. Whoever said being free of responsibility is bad anyway? Hell, babies have it so good. They get fed, given attention, loved unconditionally... that's be awesome (well without the whole crapping in the pants deal.)

Maybe heaven is a lie, but since we'll never know, at least it's a good one. I'm sure someone's ruined something - some surprise or secret - for you at least once in your life, don't be the one to try to ruin this for anyone else, no matter how ignorant they seem. It's only polite...

Though talking about it here's fine of course ha.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That is what I was thinking. If they would learn lucid dreaming, they could live out all of those fantasies on a regular basis. The baseball game with the legends could be a good lucid task of the month. The difference between doing it in Heaven and doing it in a lucid dream is that you can actually outplay Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle in a lucid. In a real setting, you will just suck and get laughed at.

That's funny you mentioned that because I've tried several times and I can LD at will but I can't dream of people who passed consciously, I can only get dreams of the dead subconsciously. Has anyone been successful with that consciously? It would be pretty interesting to know.

Also, those posts seemed to be pretty genuine feelings of people. To bad none of them will actually go to Heaven.

Originally Posted by bcomp

That's... sort of offensive, not gonna lie.

Yea, cause an atheist speaking his mind on religion has never offended anybody

And I agree with you that a majority of the time I feel like I want the exact same thing (unconditional love and someone to take care of all your problems, etc.), but I don't delude myself into thinking I'll actually get it. And after I die of all the unlikely places/times.

For alot of these people its what drives them and keeps them going, the prospect of some sort of afterlife and to be re-united with loved ones ofcourse as was mentioned; I think we can all agree (almost) how devestating it would be to rain on their parade so to speak and sew the seeds of doubt into their notions.

Its kind of like the Matrix where you can choose to take the Red Pill or the Blue Pill.

One takes you to playing baseball with Mickey Mantel and high fiving Jesus and the other....

Trust...?

You want to run from the universe, to somewhere 'better'?

Pretending and playing these games with your mind...

Relax into what is heaven. Heaven is here, now - NowHere.

Without effort, without words. Ultimate relaxation, death to elaboration.

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

I think we can all agree (almost) how devestating it would be to rain on their parade so to speak and sew the seeds of doubt into their notions.

That is why I generally don't ever argue about this stuff when people who don't want to hear it are listening. Religion forums are the only places I ever debate religion any more. If Christians would drop the Hell concept and stop pushing their religion on my strip clubs and liquor stores and Muslims would stop blowing up innocent people in the name of Allah Blah Blah Shazam and holy virgins, I probably would not feel the need to debate religion at all.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That is why I generally don't ever argue about this stuff when people who don't want to hear it are listening. Religion forums are the only places I ever debate religion any more. If Christians would drop the Hell concept and stop pushing their religion on my strip clubs and liquor stores and Muslims would stop blowing up innocent people in the name of Allah Blah Blah Shazam and holy virgins, I probably would not feel the need to debate religion at all.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That is why I generally don't ever argue about this stuff when people who don't want to hear it are listening. Religion forums are the only places I ever debate religion any more. If Christians would drop the Hell concept and stop pushing their religion on my strip clubs and liquor stores and Muslims would stop blowing up innocent people in the name of Allah Blah Blah Shazam and holy virgins, I probably would not feel the need to debate religion at all.

LOL! Couldn't have said it better myself.