Thread: I wish I had a heavenly mother, not a heavenly father

Originally Posted by Idolfan

Am I strange? Or is this a relatively common opinion?

Freud would like a word with you.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Freud would like a word with you.

lol. No I'm being serious though, is it odd?

Why not? God needs no definition, maybe he is a woman, it would explain a lot, and make plenty of people happy.

Why be gender specific, when it comes to divine beings?

Originally Posted by Idolfan

lol. No I'm being serious though, is it odd?

the hwole concept of gender in a god is totally worthless.
A god doesn't reproduce, is not an animal, void point.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

the hwole concept of gender in a god is totally worthless.
A god doesn't reproduce, is not an animal, void point.

Yes, this.

Possibly, a father might be a better security blanket?

You have Mother Earth

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

You have Mother Earth

Yeah, but Mother Earth is a bit of a bitch.

I would prefer Sophia...

if you want to limit God to the bible, then go ahead

When the religious mention a father or mother they don't literally mean it is of gender

they are implying emotional truths about it that we would associate with either a motherly or fatherly figure.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

the hwole concept of gender in a god is totally worthless.
A god doesn't reproduce, is not an animal, void point.

Do you think there is any underlying tendency of reality that manifests itself as masculine and feminine in biological creatures?

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia.org

Masculine characteristics are ascribed to God, in the scripture and traditions of the vast majority of monotheists; although, God is also usually defined as being a spirit, and thus having no biological sex. Accordingly, God is thought of as dominant, powerful, fatherly, passionate, whose ways are too high for his children to understand; and, in keeping with this understanding, God is conventionally referred to by the masculine pronoun he.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

When the religious mention a father or mother they don't literally mean it is of gender

they are implying emotional truths about it that we would associate with either a motherly or fatherly figure.

I don't entirely understand what you're saying here. Are you saying that religious people don't believe that God has a gender? That's completely untrue. Of course, there are going to be many religious people who think this way. But to say that implies that you're referring to all religious people in general, which is a very ignorant statement.

Many different people have many different beliefs, even when the foundation of all their beliefs is simply a belief that a God exists. Some believe God isn't even a person but rather a power of some sort, some believe God is their literal spiritual father. I know a lot of people who believe that there is a Heavenly Mother separate from Heavenly Father and some people who believe that God has no gender.

Therefore, Idolfan, it takes your own personal study of the bible to be able to come to conclusions like these yourself. There are many different beliefs out there... I suggest you study about different beliefs rather than just take what you've been fed your whole life. Not that you have to change your views, just keep an open mind. A lot of the bible depends on interpretation, which is why there are so many beliefs, so there may be more evidence towards a heavenly mother than you would think. Or... there might just not be any at all...

the idea that all people who believe in God have always thought of God as in a fatherly way is untrue, wiki has it wrong

God has also been the Divine Feminine, and the Goddess has been worshiped for far longer. And for as long as Christians have been praying to their heavenly father - so called ocultists else where have been praying to a heavenly mother

in the east God is both yin and yang, both masculine and feminine. Missing half of the divine has left Christians with an estranged relationship to God, where thousands of Catholics admit they feel closer to Mother Mary

The poor goddess has been neglected. I guess it would depend on your beliefs, I personally believe if their is a God then their would be a goddess.. Or they would be beyond male/female gender roles.

The only way God can have a gender is if he had a dick. and then there was Shesus.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

the whole concept of gender in a god is totally worthless.
A god doesn't reproduce, is not an animal, void point.

This this this!!

If only we DID have a heavenly mother. Only a MAN could fuck things up this bad.

I wouldn't mind if God were female. She could do cartwheels with boxershorts on under her skirt, and answer gigantic metaphysical questions with a simple tap on the nose.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if God were a cuttlefish, or a musicbox, or a seashell; provided it's an omnipotent and/or life-giving cuttlefish, musicbox, or seashell.

To avoid confusion, I usually just picture God as water, laughter, a flower, or some other non-human and non-gendered thing. Whatever I happen to see God in or working through at the time I guess.

Why does God even have to be human anyway? It's possible, but I always thought that whole idea was a bit flawed. For God to be so radically different from us but still be in human form seems a bit unlikely. If that were true however, that's a pretty radical and intriguing idea in itself that brings up all sorts of other ideas and questions worth considering...

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

the hwole concept of gender in a god is totally worthless.
A god doesn't reproduce, is not an animal, void point.

god is an animal.

Originally Posted by acatalephobic

Why does God even have to be human anyway? It's possible, but I always thought that whole idea was a bit flawed. For God to be so radically different from us but still be in human form seems a bit unlikely. If that were true however, that's a pretty radical and intriguing idea in itself that brings up all sorts of other ideas and questions worth considering...

No one said he had to be human. Christians believe he's human because the bible says that we were made in God's image. Not trying to tell you whether or not it's true, just saying: that's why God is generally thought of as human. And he's generally thought of as male because it talks about him in the bible as a "he"

Originally Posted by no-name

Why not? God needs no definition, maybe he is a woman, it would explain a lot, and make plenty of people happy.

Why be gender specific, when it comes to divine beings?

But unfortunately for your logic, God made man in his own image, and then decided to make woman from one of man's spare ribs because he felt that man needed a companion and a means to reproduce.

In essence, women were only created to serve as man's "fuck buddy," while men were sculpted to look like little miniature Gods.

Another blow to feminists everywhere.

Please do not be offended by my witty comments.

Wakata i spent a full 2 minutes laughing at that post!

Idolfan, who would your Heavenly Mother be like do you think? Ive had this thought as well, it seemed more natural to me, but i dont have a real relationship with my father so that may have something to do with it.

I've actually never met a single christian who actually believed God looks like a human

once apon a time, it was morally wrong to even illustrate God because such an image would be a false idol

the only time God ever resembled a human in traditional Christianity, is in the relationship between God and Jesus

made in our image - is understood today by many that humans are co-creators

Originally Posted by juroara

I've actually never met a single christian who actually believed God looks like a human

well that's really weird... every single christian I've ever met has believed that God looked like a human and is a man. And I live in an area where most of the people who live here are christian.