Thread: Jesus Wuvs Me!

*** Tony retreats to the trenches, as he has no intention of being hit by artillery shells ***

thats the only thing i'm going to say about this...

InTheMoments poem I found on his website.


Away from truth

Who is the father I do not know.
cause I come from wayz down below

did jesus die on the cross for me?
I must have missed that part you see

what is wuv I do not know.
illogic is where I like to go.

What is truth I cannot see
someone pay attention to me

The truth is what I like to fight
somehow I manage to sleep at night.

but sometimes fightings not enough,
thats when I wuv my illusion stuff.

Masters who walk on water and glow
what in heaven would they know?

but mummy said I was to die.
Ofcourse to this I don't ask why.

Elusive is the truth to see
Help me ego comfort me.

I have this society on a place called earth, and its big, and full of illusion.
Thats what I like to cuddle and live in.

when i'm down, It's the world I am apart of, that tells me what to think.

smoking kills, written on smokes....doesn't stop them smoking it folks.
ignore the truth, so you can sin. Treat the earth like a rubbish bin.


No conscience I need to have at all.
My beliefs and denile build me that wall.

inthemoment you are quiet a poet.



<-----Anti religious preacher? yeah same thing....

Originally posted by InTheMoment+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(InTheMoment)</div>

Disclaimer: This poem was pulled from the Rev's website (the poetic archive section) and I thought that it was so beautiful, that I had to share it with the DV community...enjoy!

Jesus Wuvs Me
Jesus wuvs me, yes it's true
And you should know he wuvs you too.
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But on the other hand...

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I hope that you wuv Him as well,
Or else you're going to burn in Hell.

When I think of love, I think of somebody letting me be tortured forever for not loving him when it is completely understandable that I don't even think he exists. Somehow I think that when Jesus actually did exist he was a fairly good bit more reasonable than that. I haven't met any drunk, fight picking rednecks who overreact quite as much as some say Jesus does.

He's a psycho-stalker-type, prehaps? If he can't have you - no one can! [zaaaap! to hell!]

Ok let's play then...

Originally posted by Master of Illusions
did jesus die on the cross for me?
I must have missed that part you see

Jesus Christ
Got sacrificed,
But retained immortality.
Small sacrifice, in reality.

For God gave His only Son,
His only, His pride, His number one.
Forgive me if I pick a bone,
But wasn't it more like a loan?

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And a little bonus stanza directed towards your "truth"

"I have faith," says the Starseed, "and you
Can know God if you just have faith too."
But of course! For it seems
"To have faith" simply means,
To pretend really hard something's true.

ITM, you have a way with words.

How's this for irony? Now the realists are going to be posting a LOT in this section, things just like this, that have to do with "religion/spirituality", just not in the long-winded, preachy sense. The fact that there are no mods translates to the fact that no one cares. So post away, post away, post away, all!

Edit: That means don't get your toga all in a twist, Staashiido... I mean, you certainly can if you want, but why would you want to make more work for yourself?

Originally posted by Rakkantekimusouka
How's this for irony? Now the realists are going to be posting a LOT in this section, things just like this, that have to do with \"religion/spirituality\", just not in the long-winded, preachy sense. The fact that there are no mods translates to the fact that no one cares. So post away, post away, post away, all!

Exactly! I'm just returning the favor that previous theist have done on the other forums. It's time to administer my version of propaganda...muhaha!

to have faith is not pretending something is true. Get your poems right dam it.


and Jesus sacrificed his life. Thats the biggist sacrifice possible dumb ass.

Originally posted by Nirvana Starseed
to have faith is not pretending something is true. Get your poems right dam it.


and Jesus sacrificed his life. Thats the biggist sacrifice possible dumb ass.

Unfortunately, since Faith was so greately advocated by Paul, and since Paul was indeed the Antichrist, we need to re-evalatute the Doctrine of Faith to see what harm there is in it. And there is harm. Just look at how Faith is used in the New Age Community. The New Age Profiters promise the Heavens and the Earth, but condition all of their Teachings with the proviso that their people need to have Faith. Effectively it allows them to shift the Blame. It is not that their Doctrines and Promises are wrong or unrealistic, it is that the people do not have enough Faith. This is how Paul used the Doctrine of Faith. When he broke away from the Messianic Church of the Jews and set up a separate Gentile Christianity, the miracles stopped. His Congregations, who had heard of the Miracles in the Messianic Church, complained and were on the point of Rebellion with Paul. Some Church's did boot him out, notibly Ephesus, but other Congregations were satisfied with the Excuses that Paul was able to fashion. Those Excuses is what we now understand as the Doctrine of Faith, which are effective blaming the people for the frustrations they experience with False Doctrines in that they do not have enough Faith to activate them.

The True Belief is that a Correct Doctrine requires no Faith. A good Spiritual Technique or Teaching will simply operate Mechanically. The correct actions will be followed by the intended consequences. This is in line with Modern Catholic Thought. For instance, regarding wearing the Miraculous Medal, Our Lady was quite specific, that the benefits would accrue from simply wearing the Medal, and not in having Faith in it. some of the first documented Miracles involved Atheists who wore the Medal on dares, who could have had no Faith, and yet still experienced Miracles.

Originally posted by Nirvana Starseed
and Jesus sacrificed his life. Thats the biggist sacrifice possible dumb ass.

I don't think you're getting it here. it's not a sacrifice because the situation was this:

An immortal entity sent himself down to earth to be crucified because of silly rules that the same immortal entity created ~2000 years before and wanted to change. This immortal entity never had to make a sacrifice because, being immortal, he could not die and was always going back to heaven... where he had been all along.

Yeah. Big sacrifice.

Originally posted by kimpossible
He's a psycho-stalker-type, prehaps? If he can't have you - no one can! [zaaaap! to hell!]

He won't give it up. I tried a restraining order, but that was a joke. All the cops just worship him. I also changed my locks, but that hasn't kept him out of my bushes. He better knock it off before I have him crucified.

Originally posted by Universal Mind
He won't give it up. I tried a restraining order, but that was a joke. All the cops just worship him. I also changed my locks, but that hasn't kept him out of my bushes. He better knock it off before I have him crucified.

I just about pissed myself reading that.

I guess this forum isn't so bad. Keep these threads comin', Momentai! :nod:

Originally posted by Universal Mind


He won't give it up. I tried a restraining order, but that was a joke. All the cops just worship him. I also changed my locks, but that hasn't kept him out of my bushes. He better knock it off before I have him crucified.

I've found stabbing him in the side to be reasonably effective. Just be sure you hang around for a bit and make REALLY sure he's dead. Tricky little bastard...

Originally posted by kimpossible


I've found stabbing him in the side to be reasonably effective. Just be sure you hang around for a bit and make REALLY sure he's dead. Tricky little bastard...

ROFL
Damn that's funny. For your sake I hope God doesn't exist or is even more understanding than they make out
Then again, you're doomed if you don't believe in the right God in the first place... one of those nasty 'you're doomed if you do, doomed if you don't' things.
I think I prefer the lottery...

Not only is the lottery mathematically and scientifically valid, as it were, it also has much better odds than your average mangod-type miracle these days.

Originally posted by spoon

An immortal entity sent himself down to earth to be crucified because of silly rules that the same immortal entity created ~2000 years before and wanted to change. This immortal entity never had to make a sacrifice because, being immortal, he could not die and was always going back to heaven... where he had been all along.

I think your a little bit confused about who jesus is.Because of all the religious doctrine about it has effected your perception and understanding about the situation. He said himself "he that loses his life for my sake, will gain it." That applies to everyone not just him.

that immortal excuse is silly, mainly because jesus is just like us. Just more evolved.
If you want to call jesus god and somehow different to us, because you think he was so great. It does not alter the fact he was one of us. It obviously was a sacrifice.He could have lived how he wanted to. He didn't have to do it. He was not god anymore than you are. He was perhaps more perfect. But just because he was so evolved is no reason to say, "he was different, so it was nothing for him to do that" You little brat.

In addition the only reason he is said to have gone heaven is because he was evolved enough to come from such a state, as where we are striving to go. and will all go. He merely came down to teach us how to get there more quickly.

but some will probally take a long time to get there because they don't listen or understand. Are not willing to, and are stuborn bastards in general. Similar to you guys.

I think your a little bit confused about who jesus is.Because of all the religious doctrine about it has effected your perception and understanding about the situation. [/b]

Oh, I'm sorry, I was talking about jesus the religious character. You were talking about the jesus you just made up to segway into your beliefs.

the immortal excuse is silly, mainly because jesus was just one of us. Just more evolved. [/b]

You're familiar with the bible right? Thats where this jesus character comes from. He was an immortal third of the triune christian god. I'm not going to go into how ridiculous the trinity is - thats what he is in the christian mythos. You can't just make up new beliefs and tack them onto an already established mythical character.

And just because he was so evolved is no reason to say, \"he was different cause he was god so it was nothing for him to do that\" You little brat. [/b]

I don't believe in jesus. But if you do believe, and believe that he died for our sins, then you believe he's a god. Otherwise you've just made up some character to validate your beliefs.

I'm really confused right now as to how you can completely ditch the biblical jesus, but still hold onto the ol' "he died for your sins" line?

-spoon

Staashiido, you're an asshole just like the rest of us, and you keep proving it again and again. There is no sacrifice because there is no Jebus, not like that Greek Book says, anyway.

So just stop beating that poor dead horse; besides, it's starting to smell.

Edit: You beat me to it, spooner!

Originally posted by Placebo

ROFL
Damn that's funny. For your sake I hope God doesn't exist or is even more understanding than they make out
Then again, you're doomed if you don't believe in the right God in the first place... one of those nasty 'you're doomed if you do, doomed if you don't' things.
I think I prefer the lottery...

You know, life's a gamble, but death is a surety... So since I already have those odds in my favor, I'm willing to play out for the pot-odds.

Doesn't the Bible say that God came to Earth as Jesus, his son? Wasn't Jesus part man, part God? That's what my Presbyterian church drilled into my head every Sunday until I converted to Episcopalianism. Then the Episcopalians drilled it into my head every Sunday, just in a more open-minded and understanding manner.

If God is also Jesus and Jesus is God, then God is the son of Jesus. So Jesus is the father of the father of Jesus, making Jesus his own grandfather, and therefore his own grandson. If he is his own grandson, and his grandson is his grandfather, then his great grandson is also his his great grandfather. This goes on infinitely. Does Jesus look in the mirror and say, "Hello Great Great Great Great Great Great Granddaddy."? Does he then say hello back to himself? If Jesus also has his own separate identity from God, like I was taught, then there are an infinite number of Gods, and an infinite number of Jesuses. So there isn't just one God after all, and Jesus was not his only begotten son. God had an infinite number of children. That's a heavy child support burden. Should he be taken to court and put on a payment plan? I guess if an infinite number of Gods are working together on a payment plan, it can be covered, but it probably takes away each individual's feeling of responsibility and has them all slacking off as much as possible. Send God to jail! Wait... Never mind. God's son already died, for us, by going to where he always had been. I bet God is relieved. But oh yeh... Think of the infinite number of past bills. Well, Jesus is also God, so he is responsible for himself too. An infinite number of Jesuses need to go to jail for not paying what they owe himself.

Originally posted by Half way to Loonville
but some will probally take a long time to get there because they don't listen or understand. Are not willing to, and are stuborn bastards in general. Similar to you guys.

Yah yah...tell that too the men in white coats and butterfly nets that will, undoubtedly be showing up, on your doorstep in the near future.

I think you really don't understand what Jesus really was. ( I hope you did in fact read the bible, since you're talking about it anyway )

Jesus is God born into flesh. He is like us, becuz he was in fact human. He felt pain, suffering and joy, just as we do today. And, most importantly, he is just as immortal as any of us as well, becuz he too had (has) a soul. You too will Live after Death. The only difference is that Jesus' soul was/is different, him being part of the Holy Trinity, so he could resurrect, us being unable to perform such a miracle.

It is indeed a beautiful sacrifice, becuz He gave His life for all of mankind. Humans can perform sacrifices too, such as dying for a loved one, but Jesus' sacrifice is different, becuz he understood the suffering of Humanity as a whole and gave his life for us all.