Thread: My Thoughts on God. (Lengthy get ready to read)

you can't say he doesn't exist because there's no proof

you can't say he does exist because there's no proof


everyone will have to be at a standstill, there's no way to prove it

There is absolutely no logic in the above statement^^

what's not logical about there being no proof there is a god or not a god?

it's reasonable to say that because it's true

The newest christian arguement of "there is no god? prove it" is simply ridiculous, closeminded, and illogical. End of story.

you're arguement is the same thing. you want a christian to prove he exists therefore this thread is illogical

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

you're arguement is the same thing. you want a christian to prove he exists therefore this thread is illogical

In essence:

NO U

Boring....

i'm ready to see some other form of religion on this forum to see them debate all i've seen so far is christian/atheist/agnostic

if you really think about it, if me saying "there is a god" is illogical only because there's no proof that he exists and it can't be proven

then..

me saying "there is no god" is also illogical because you can't prove that he doesn't exist


both are illogical because both contain faults

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

i'm ready to see some other form of religion on this forum to see them debate all i've seen so far is christian/atheist/agnostic

if you really think about it, if me saying "there is a god" is illogical only because there's no proof that he exists and it can't be proven

then..

me saying "there is no god" is also illogical because you can't prove that he doesn't exist


both are illogical because both contain faults

You fail at logic and reasoned debate. As far as I'm concerned, it is not me who has to prove anything. It is not up to the sceptic to prove the believer to be wrong, for the burden of proof lies on the believer to substantiate his claims.

Learn 2 debate.

Originally Posted by bluefinger

You fail at logic and reasoned debate. As far as I'm concerned, it is not me who has to prove anything. It is not up to the sceptic to prove the believer to be wrong, for the burden of proof lies on the believer to substantiate his claims.

Learn 2 debate.

as i said before being a skeptic can go both ways, your skeptical of existance i'm skeptical of non-existance

the definition of skepticism is having doubt in something, you have doubt that god exists, i have doubt that he doesn't exist

you think it's reasonable to believe god doesn't exist because there is no proof he does

i think it's reasonable to believe god does exist because there's no proof he doesn't


for us to call each other skeptical and thinking you yourself isn't a skeptic is dumb, the same with calling one of each other illogical and not considering yourself to be illogical


it's that simple

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

as i said before being a skeptic can go both ways, your skeptical of existance i'm skeptical of non-existance

the definition of skepticism is having doubt in something, you have doubt that god exists, i have doubt that he doesn't exist

you think it's reasonable to believe god doesn't exist because there is no proof he does

i think it's reasonable to believe god does exist because there's no proof he doesn't


for us to call each other skeptical and thinking you yourself isn't a skeptic is dumb, the same with calling one of each other illogical and not considering yourself to be illogical


it's that simple

The difference is you believe in something you can't substantiate. I don't have a belief in the area of such a thing existing so it is not me who has to substantiate the idea. The only time I need to substantiate such a position is if you can show that a God exists, and thus only then do I have to provide evidence to the contrary.

Again, learn 2 debate.

if that's true then why are there even debates on this forum? it's impossible to win a debate if you're a christian according to the way you explain it or for any religion for that matter, that means all the threads here are pointless




actually it goes the other way to, reality<LDs is making a claim that god doesn't exist in this forum so now it's the atheists turn to prove there is no god since he's the one making the claim now

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

if that's true then why are there even debates on this forum? it's impossible to win a debate if you're a christian according to the way you explain it or for any religion for that matter, that means all the threads here are pointless

Now you are starting to get why I am an atheist. As a sceptic, even if I am wrong, I have less to lose than a believer, because I expected such an outcome. The believer though, if he turned out to be wrong, pretty much wasted his/her life on a fruitless venture.

In the end, to me, it is more sensible just to cut religion out of the picture. Less things to worry about.

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

actually it goes the other way to, reality<LDs is making a claim that god doesn't exist in this forum so now it's the atheists turn to prove there is no god since he's the one making the claim now

He has to prove it, not me, as I did not specifically make the claim myself. I am not his personal army.

well you've already stated you don't deny their is a god but you don't admit there is one either, we've carried on discussions about religion already i don't expect to get much from you on proving to me there isn't or is a god lol. :]

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

well you've already stated you don't deny their is a god but you don't admit there is one either, we've carried on discussions about religion already i don't expect to get much from you on proving to me there isn't or is a god lol. :]

Please... comprehension skills, learn them.

I have no reason to believe in fairy tales, astrology, homoeopathy, or religion. To me, they are all absurd and offer no good reason to me to believe. What part of that don't you understand?

i understand it all, i still like talking about it though, religion is probably one of the biggest talked about topics in the world

i like hearing other people's beliefs and why they believe in what they do, it interests me

I'm not atheist. I'm not part of any group that has to do with not believing or believing in god.

wtf

seriously now



do people join this site to talk and argue about god.. to make sure people know what they believe or don't

very boring now.. too many god/religion threads

This is the Religion/Spirituality forum, what did you expect?

lol.

nitsuJ:
There are an infinite number of possible things (FSM, IPU, Frodo Baggins, Vishnu, FSM wearing a top hat, ...) which cannot be proven true or false. However, if I tried to believe all of them at once (or even just believe that they could happen), my head would explode.
QED

Originally Posted by reality<LDs

I'm not atheist. I'm not part of any group that has to do with not believing or believing in god.

you said god doesn't exist, by saying god you mean any type of god or you would of been more specific, therefore you're an atheist

you're about like the guy that posted in that one thread saying "i don't believe in god but i'm not an atheist"

if you don't believe in god you're an atheist

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

lol.

nitsuJ:
There are an infinite number of possible things (FSM, IPU, Frodo Baggins, Vishnu, FSM wearing a top hat, ...) which cannot be proven true or false. However, if I tried to believe all of them at once (or even just believe that they could happen), my head would explode.
QED

we're not talking about everything else, we're talking about god

Oh, and what makes god special?

Your faith, is that it?

nah not faith, belief, the belief that he loves everyone and will allow us to spend eternity in a place of happiness, of course you don't believe in any of it and i'm not that worried that you do because i could careless, just like you careless about there being a god or not, it's all beliefs, there's no need to try and jump on someone's case for a belief

i can't prove god exists, you can't prove god doesn't exist, therefore we're at a standstill and no real reason to talk about god

How is belief not faith, if you haven't got any evidence?

PS. Hmm... I'm thinking the reason you believe is because you already do, and the fact there is no proof either way makes changing your mind not worth the effort. Is that.. close?