Thread: N I R V A N A

Originally Posted by Inside This Fantasy

So why haven't you committed suicide yet?

Ignore him.


Yeah, I didn't really understand this, you are way deeper then i am.

I wasn't trying to troll, I was genuinely curious why he lives if it didn't matter, doesn't matter, and never will. There has to be some reason.

Originally Posted by Inside This Fantasy

I wasn't trying to troll, I was genuinely curious why he lives if it didn't matter, doesn't matter, and never will. There has to be some reason.

Why is that?

ITF, lack of meaning doesn't give meaning to lack of.

Originally Posted by rottingteeth

is nothing. existence will never end because it never began. we are all "moving around" in absolute nothingness. only we aren't, because movement is an illusion, time is an illusion. nothing ever was, nothing is, nothing ever will be. it doesn't matter what you've done, what you're doing, what you will do, all suffering, all pleasure...nothing.

stillness, peace. that's all.

Then that fact does not exist.

And by extension, you don't exist, Universal Mind. QED, you didn't post that comment. Of course, this also means I don't exist, and I haven't posted this comment to notify you of the nonexistence of your comment, therefore leaving you in an imagery world where things are real and totally not nothing.

Also, I'm an ass.

All I see is code.

Originally Posted by Inside This Fantasy

So why haven't you committed suicide yet?

I already have. many, many times.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Then that fact does not exist.

facts are relative. it exists, it doesn't exist, simultaneously. everything is essentially nothing, and nothing is essentially everything. do the math?

Nirvana AND Samsara both reside within You

Inseperable one from the other

Inseperable from You

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Then that fact does not exist.

Then what facts do exist?

Does anyone here actually have any 'proof' they exist? Could you prove to me, or the OP, whether you exist?

I couldn't, nobody else could, either.

Originally Posted by marcc

Does anyone here actually have any 'proof' they exist? Could you prove to me, or the OP, whether you exist?

I couldn't, nobody else could, either.

No, but can you prove to yourself that you exist?

Nothing in this thread is true, not even this.

But by the very fact that we cannot prove whether we can prove whether we can in fact hypothetically exist, we are failing to prove that we cannot prove that we cannot prove that we cannot hypothetically exist, hypothetically. (Of course, I cannot prove this.)

Originally Posted by paragon

But by the very fact that we cannot prove whether we can prove whether we can in fact hypothetically exist, we are failing to prove that we cannot prove that we cannot prove that we cannot hypothetically exist, hypothetically. (Of course, I cannot prove this.)

And that's where quantum mechanics come in.



It boggles the mind.

And where I go out.

why though?

Because when Robert Anton Wilson speaks, people get psychotic.

What is the point of talking about something when the way you attempt to describe it reduces it to utter meaninglessness?

Ok, I thought he meant that topic altogether, and was wondering.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

What is the point of talking about something when the way you attempt to describe it reduces it to utter meaninglessness?

It depends on what context and purpose has the description? Meaningless, if you do not derive meaning from it.

Originally Posted by rottingteeth

is nothing. existence will never end because it never began. we are all "moving around" in absolute nothingness. only we aren't, because movement is an illusion, time is an illusion. nothing ever was, nothing is, nothing ever will be. it doesn't matter what you've done, what you're doing, what you will do, all suffering, all pleasure...nothing.

stillness, peace. that's all.

Try substituting "nothing" with "everything". Once you can grasp the whole picture, you'll see that everything and nothing are synonymous. It took me a long time to begin to understand the concept which I, admittedly, still don't fully understand.

What you said about "existence never ending because it never began." That's called eternity. There's a cycle the universe goes through, where it expands and then collapses upon itself, and expands again. It's like rolling dice, or dealing cards. Sometimes the universe is dealt a hand that enables matter to form from energy, and life to form from matter.

You should feel grateful to be alive, because it's not every 14 billion years that the physical conditions are met for a galaxy/star/planet--life to form.

Originally Posted by Lucky27

You should feel grateful to be alive, because it's not every 14 billion years that the physical conditions are met for a galaxy/star/planet--life to form.

Yes, but it is every 14 billion years that those conditions are met when God wants them to be met so that he can create life forms on it and have them sustain.

(Oh joy a religious smackdown in the making.)

You've smacked yourself down.

Nirvana is this. To divide it is to create the confusion that is not nirvana. Labels, perception, feelings. All of them cannot comprehend nonexistence. It is what is before it is. It is x and not x and x and not x forever and never. Now is everything. Now is nothing. Outside of it is existence, and inside of existence is insanity.