Thread: Theists and delusion

Generalizations, intolerance, faith, personal proof, etc.

Who cares. Let them believe what they want to believe. Most of the people in this world are delusional and ignorant about something or other.

^^ I would let them, but for crying out loud I want to have a president who doesn't even think about mentioning religion during his speeches. Among all the other problems.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

^^ I would let them, but for crying out loud I want to have a president who doesn't even think about mentioning religion during his speeches. Among all the other problems.

You mean... instead of one that God himself speaks to? Common, we have the divine spirit guiding our country. Lulz.

Aqua, I, for the most part, do let them believe whatever as that's their business, but whenever they either pose the argument against me or they try to convert me or talk to me about Christ or whatever, then I need my arguments to be top notch so that they'll learn not to try and convert Stephen.

Today somebody walked up to our table at lunch and sat down, and I was like, "Aww damn... here we go." Then they asked if we wanted to join the army. I support the troops and love em and all, but it pretty funny. Then once they left somebody went, "Almost as bad as Christians."

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

^^ I would let them, but for crying out loud I want to have a president who doesn't even think about mentioning religion during his speeches. Among all the other problems.

And this why we don't vote Republican. But then again, all of the potentials bring up their 'faith' at one point or another. Evil people these politicians.

Originally Posted by InspectorDevious

Evil people these politicians.

Are you joking or do you think they're evil for their beliefs?

Originally Posted by InspectorDevious

But then again, all of the potentials bring up their 'faith' at one point or another.

True. Makes me cringe these days.

The reason they bring it up is because the vast majority of voters are religious, and in this country, that means Christian. And they want those votes.
So they'll say anything to get them. Doesn't mean they actually are Christian or whatever. Just like Obama. To the muslims, he's a muslim pretending to be Christian. To the Christians, he's a converted Muslim. To the women, well, he's attractive.
To the blacks, he's a black, etc................He'll probably win.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Who cares. Let them believe what they want to believe. Most of the people in this world are delusional and ignorant about something or other.

What if these delusional people are in control of your country?

Delusion does function on a dynamic scale.

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Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

^^ I would let them, but for crying out loud I want to have a president who doesn't even think about mentioning religion during his speeches. Among all the other problems.

So argue about the president, not religion as a whole. You seem incapable of even narrowing it to the president's religion.

Originally Posted by O'nus

What if these delusional people are in control of your country?

Delusion does function on a dynamic scale.

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if ?

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

So argue about the president, not religion as a whole. You seem incapable of even narrowing it to the president's religion.

For a starter, go watch Jesus Camp.

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Originally Posted by O'nus

For a starter, go watch Jesus Camp.

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I've seen it. What relevance does that have to my comment? I was suggesting that Mes needed to expand her vocabulary if she had a problem with the President and his religion, Christianity; since she is only capable of talking about 'religion'.

Originally Posted by De-lousedInTheComatorium

Are you joking or do you think they're evil for their beliefs?

T'was a jest, my friend. Saying politicians are evil is like saying all lawyers are evil. It's not actually true...but it is possible.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I've seen it. What relevance does that have to my comment? I was suggesting that Mes needed to expand her vocabulary if she had a problem with the President and his religion, Christianity; since she is only capable of talking about 'religion'.

Oh, you are saying that people ought to call out the religions/peoples/things they have issues with rather than things in general..?

If that is the case; I completey agree then.

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Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I was suggesting that Mes needed to expand her vocabulary if she had a problem with the President and his religion, Christianity; since she is only capable of talking about 'religion'.

I think it was wishful thinking on her part. Not an attack on any president, but i don't want to put words in anyone's mouth. I know i certainly wish for a president that doesn't pander his religious beliefs out there because there are bigger issues out there. But it is a quite easy way to get votes. There is a staggering amount of people who base their votes on religion. Oh we'll just say Christianity if we want to be specific. I have not seen anyone run for president who wasn't a Christian or from a religion that wasn't derived from Christianity. (I may be mistaken though). But the point is to have someone be president who is looking out for everyone, not just his/her personal sect of fellow believers.
That's just my two cents is all.

Originally Posted by InspectorDevious

But it is a quite easy way to get votes. There is a staggering amount of people who base their votes on religion.

That is my major complaint about the USA in a nutshell.

Oh we'll just say Christianity if we want to be specific. I have not seen anyone run for president who wasn't a Christian or from a religion that wasn't derived from Christianity. (I may be mistaken though). But the point is to have someone be president who is looking out for everyone, not just his/her personal sect of fellow believers.
That's just my two cents is all.

Two cents well worth it, I say.

"In God we trust"
"God Bless USA"



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Originally Posted by O'nus

That is my major complaint about the USA in a nutshell.~

You have the whole world at your disposal. Why live here if you have such a problem with it? Russia would probably welcome you.

Originally Posted by Gramps

You have the whole world at your disposal. Why live here if you have such a problem with it? Russia would probably welcome you.

Why shouldn't people try to change things?

Originally Posted by Gramps

You have the whole world at your disposal. Why live here if you have such a problem with it? Russia would probably welcome you.

This is embarrassingly ignorant.

If someone loves the US, shouldn't they be concerned when someone else is hurting it in their eyes? Shouldn't they be protecting the parts of their country that matter to them?

Would YOU run to Russia if someone started doing things you didn't like to the US?

Originally Posted by skysaw

Would YOU run to Russia if someone started doing things you didn't like to the US?

Did the US suddenly become a Christian country, or has it always been one. Or are you hundreds of years old?

Originally Posted by Gramps

The reason they bring it up is because the vast majority of voters are religious, and in this country, that means Christian. And they want those votes.
So they'll say anything to get them. Doesn't mean they actually are Christian or whatever. Just like Obama. To the muslims, he's a muslim pretending to be Christian. To the Christians, he's a converted Muslim. To the women, well, he's attractive.
To the blacks, he's a black, etc................He'll probably win.

Yes you are probably right. I really wish Christians would stop caring enough about their politicians' beliefs that someone could announce that he was Jewish and not be affected in any way.

I hope Obama doesn't win, because as you suggest, he will probably get most of his votes because he's black, young, "attractive," etc. The religious bit might hurt him a little, but who knows if the mainstream public is even aware of it. Anyway, all I see in him is inexperience... surely all those other qualities won't matter when it comes down to it.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

stuff

Chillax.

Originally Posted by Gramps

You have the whole world at your disposal. Why live here if you have such a problem with it? Russia would probably welcome you.

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Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Anyway, all I see in him is inexperience...

But could that be a good thing? Maybe we need a noob in office to shake stuff up, do things differently.