Thread: VenomFangX

Venomfangx is a cool guy.

About your signature: if one day we terraform other planets, then yes, the earth does reproduce.

VenomfangX is an hero. Nuff said.

Seriously, I never seen such an articulate asshole. That ass sure can talk... I wonder what his face would be like!

VenomFangX is great for a laugh, has been for a while.

1. We don't have to proove that something does not exist. The burden of proof always falls on the believer, and the evidence for God is not available.

2. The stone argument works.

3. We do not have an origin for the universe without God, we do not have an explanation for God. So one of these things may exist without a cause. Now, we know the universe exists. We do not know that God exists.

4. The prophecies of Jesus in the Old Testament are vague, and bible believers often choose what bits are prophecies arbitrarilly and which are to be fulfilled in the second coming. On top of that, the book of Revelations seems to be talking more about the politics of the Roman world than our future.

Many scholars say that it predicts the return of Nero, a popular belief at the time that has since fallen out of fashion.

5. There are many religions. Many of these have prophecies. Baha'i, for instance is entirely based on using prophecies from other faiths to explain their prophet. If Christianity can use the Jewish belief in a coming saviour king of the Jews to proove that a carpenter was God, then the Baha'is also have prophecies that work.

6. He says truth is easy to get to. Its not. It may exist, but its never easy. Why should the answer to how the universe came into being and what its all for have a one word three letter answer when the answer to the question of how grass grows or how socks are made are so mind numbingly complex.

8. Jesus did not necessarilly say what was in the Bible, he may not have been a good man. Most of his myths come from another prophet of the time, Mithras. Look it up.

9. Some evil is natural - earthquakes, etc. And if God wanted to give up free will he should have created better people who were capable of avoiding horrible lives.

We don't have to prove that evil exists, it is an abstraction, not necessarilly absolute. Even if there is no evil, we can still safely assume a loving God would not want to toture us.

10. Evolution works. Deal with it.

He is really annoying because he answers all the questions by repeating the questions in a different form. Of course people like Venomfangx , Jeausfreak777 , SoliderInGodsArmy , are all really annoying. Even though SoliderInGodsArmy is being pure satire in all his videos.

That guy he linked, Hovind, was destroyed by Extant Dodo

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

That guy he linked, Hovind, was destroyed by Extant Dodo

Extant Dodo's account has been suspended though.... fucking sucks

Why?

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Why?

Apparently a copyright infraction. Though technically, all the material posted by Extant Dodo is covered by the Fair Use clause and non-profit & educational clause of the DMCA... the creationists simply don't like the bullshit being called on them.

WHAT.

They even SAID in the videos that they could be used.

Buncha' idiots.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

WHAT.

They even SAID in the videos that they could be used.

Buncha' idiots.

I know. Though all Extant Dodo has to do is file a DMCA counter-claim, and if Youtube doesn't reinstate the account, Extant can take it to court. I doubt his account will be permanently suspended if he acts accordingly.

Yer.

Side note: Did you hear about what the movie industry is trying to do? Sue people who watch videos on YT that have copyrighted stuff in them? That includes fan trailers, clips, music, everything.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Yer.

Side note: Did you hear about what the movie industry is trying to do? Sue people who watch videos on YT that have copyrighted stuff in them? That includes fan trailers, clips, music, everything.

Just scream Fair Use at them. If it ain't the full movie, then they can fuck off. Also, they fail to realise that the more they struggle, the harder we get.

You can't stop the streisand effect.

Well... It looks like you were being ironic, there, but for those that're still wondering about his 'genious': I can't really say he is that much of a genious, to be honest. He's been featured more than enough in the 'why people laugh at creationists' series where he has been owned time and time again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loPHYsLHb5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS5vid4GkEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=istxUVBZD2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttnU8Tbwtd0
etcetera,
etcetera,
etcetera.


And ehh...

if one day we terraform other planets, then yes, the earth does reproduce.

No... If we'd terraform other planets WE would TRANSFORM another planet to become like the earth. So:
1) The planet itself wouldn't have been produced at all... It has already been there for a long long time already. We merely changed its environment, and that would be it.
and 2) WE would've done it. The earth has nothing to do with it. As long as the earth doesn't open up and spews a huge chunk of rock out which will form to be a planet (which would probably be nearly impossible), we cannot say that by terraforming, the earth will have reproduced.

Then again... If the earth would've spewed out some magma which would've formed into a planet, it would be debatable whether the earth would've reproduced itself. And why? Simply because we wouldn't know whether to classify this as actual 'reproduction'. Sure, the official oxford-dictionary term might apply, but not in the organic, biological sense, quite simply because it wouldn't be a biological process.

Then again: could you really call that 'reproduction'? It doesn't really replicate itself, does it? It merely loses some of its own stuff, which would then form a coherent form thanks to gravity. That's like me cutting off my hand and saying that hand was my child. Even the simplest of organisms on the earth, bacteriae, fabricate their own new DNA strands, etc, before they branch off and form 2 organisms.

I fail to see how terraforming a planet couldn't count as reproduction:

Man sends sperm cells to an ovum, the ovum becomes a new individual organism.

Planet sends men to a "dead planet", "dead planet" becomes a new individual organismt.


It's all a matter of perspective. Whatever you call it, it doesn't change the objective reality of things.

Originally Posted by bluefinger

Just scream Fair Use at them. If it ain't the full movie, then they can fuck off. Also, they fail to realise that the more they struggle, the harder we get.

True. It really makes no difference what they do. As technology gets more and more advanced copyright is harder and harder to uphold.

Shaun is actually smart, people shouldn't underestimate him. I don't know what brought him to be a creationist but you can see in some of his videos he isn't as dumb as he seems at first.

Originally Posted by Idolfan

Shaun is actually smart, people shouldn't underestimate him. I don't know what brought him to be a creationist but you can see in some of his videos he isn't as dumb as he seems at first.

George Carlin once highlighted that there are the stupid, the ones who are full of shit, and the batshit crazy ones. VenomfangX is the second one (very strongly in the second category), whilst thetruthtony[whatever number here] is the one that hits all three.

Anyone checked out his channel recently? He's gone; due to death threats by people who know where he lives.

I call bullshit.

He took down all his videos about evolution and about Islam. Who is more likely to send death threats? Pissed of evolutionists, or pissed off Muslims? Who got youtube to suspend his account? Muslims. What youtube community emailed youtube to help him get it back? Atheists.

Yet he says that The Amazing Atheist and Thunderf00t (of all people) propagated hatred towards him which led to these threats.

Plus, y would he have given out his address to an atheist? Fishy.

IF there were any threats (which most of the youtube atheist community seems to think there weren't) then there is a monumentally higher probability that they were coming from Muslims and not from Atheists. Most of the atheists found him entertaining!

There is also the option that he was tired of getting embarrassed by other users (thunderf00t's videos of responding to a debate challenge were really humiliating and well deserved) and/or was plain out running out of steam. Anyone who has seen his latest video before he pulled it, the top 10 atheist fallacies, will know that the quality of his videos plummeted, most likely due to finally using up all of Kent Hovind's material.

With that said I hereby revive this thread to talk about VenomFangX's departure.

Another one bites the dust... Dum dum dum...

Bleh, he made a video called "Why evolution is an evil lie made up by satan" and uses photoshopped pictures of skeletons and people digging to give the impression of 70-foot tall people being found.

Wtf.

Originally Posted by Needcatscan

Anyone checked out his channel recently? He's gone; due to death threats by people who know where he lives.

I call bullshit.

He took down all his videos about evolution and about Islam. Who is more likely to send death threats? Pissed of evolutionists, or pissed off Muslims? Who got youtube to suspend his account? Muslims. What youtube community emailed youtube to help him get it back? Atheists.

Yet he says that The Amazing Atheist and Thunderf00t (of all people) propagated hatred towards him which led to these threats.

Plus, y would he have given out his address to an atheist? Fishy.

IF there were any threats (which most of the youtube atheist community seems to think there weren't) then there is a monumentally higher probability that they were coming from Muslims and not from Atheists. Most of the atheists found him entertaining!

There is also the option that he was tired of getting embarrassed by other users (thunderf00t's videos of responding to a debate challenge were really humiliating and well deserved) and/or was plain out running out of steam. Anyone who has seen his latest video before he pulled it, the top 10 atheist fallacies, will know that the quality of his videos plummeted, most likely due to finally using up all of Kent Hovind's material.

With that said I hereby revive this thread to talk about VenomFangX's departure.

He'll be back. He'll come crawling back like an addicted crack whore. He simply thrives on attention, and since he's not getting any, he's pulling off this stunt in order to attract more of that precious attention he craves.

So cease this banter. Do not feed the troll. If he goes, he goes. If he comes back, he'll be ribbed for being a lying c***. Either way, a lose-lose situation for him.

Nah, if he comes back he just won't video tape himself.

Of course, he'll probably either forget that or include auido in one of his vids and be shunned, and have is Youtube account deleted.

This was his weird way of admitting defeat.

One month and he's back.