Thread: What Will Happen In 2012?

I am actually hyped for 2012. Even though probably nothing will happen (most probable thing happening is the Mayan calendar will reset - everyone think 2012 is the end because their calendar, the most accurate ever made, ends near the end of 2012).

There is no other reason for 2012 other than I know of, and I can only see two options from that:

1 - the world ends
2 - the calendar resets

Obviously probably going to be option #2, but I can't say I won't be outside or watching the skies constantly on December 21, 2012 (or whenever their calendar ends).

Well it all seems like that everyone will eventually encounter that process that's called growing up. I've heard lot's of Hype and I don't think anything different will happen in 2012. I think someone created a thread on 2012. Also they've discussed this 2012 Theory in another forum and also Here Thanks to Arlic and Jinzo. check it out.

I really hate to be a wet blanket here and I have read a lot of threads about 2012 when the Mayan calendar ends.

I'd like to propose the following alternative theory:

The guy that was creating the calendar got bored and decided someone else could pick up the task in a few hundred years. You know plenty of time to continue the work before 2012. Why should he be spending all of his time doing it when there were probably more worthwhile and productive things he could be doing?

"What Will Happen In 2012?"

Skynet

I think that in 2012 gnomes that came into existance by radioactive radiation () will take over the white house.

There will be no more room in hell AND THE DEAD WILL ROAM THE EARTH!!!!!!
OMG ZOMBIES.

Thats my two cents.

... Google will inherit the Universe, as God intended.

most probable thing happening is the Mayan calendar will reset - everyone think 2012 is the end because their calendar, the most accurate ever made, ends near the end of 2012[/b]

Er...hate to break it to you--the Mayan calendar was moderately accurate for its time. That's it. Compared to modern calendars, it's off quite a bit. Even compared to a few calendars developed during similar time periods by other civilizations, it had its flaws--hell, their calendar only had 360 days, and was filled with meaningless bloat.

And the 2012 thing is a complete hoax.
2012 was of religious significance to the Mayans. So? Do you worship Tepeu? Gucumatz? Huracan? Ixchel?
Do you practice ritual human sacrifice? Then why do you insist on believing that a calendar with a spiritual basis has significance, but don't believe in the spiritual basis of the calendar?

The fact is, the Mayans were a nasty society. Mass human sacrifice to their imaginary gods? Horrible! These people formed an entire culture around bloodshed and violence--and it disgusts me. And yet people STILL believe that these people were in some way "divinely inspired" or something and attach all sorts of significance to their calendar. It's sickening, frankly.

And here's links to all the 2012 threads you failed to search for before starting a new thread:
2012 Theory
Has anyone else heard about 2012 being like this?
The Significance of 2012
2012, the End of the World?
2012 Mass Panic?
2012 or not, what's the real issue?
2012: A Matter of Free Will

It's probably mentioned in one of those threads but: why the fuck do the end of the world theorists arbitrarily cut off the majority of the long count? I'd say its comparable to the bible code and other such nonsense. You can find lots of "hidden information" in something if you randomly select criteria until something fits .From wikipedia.

The last creation ended on a long count of 13.0.0.0.0. Another 13.0.0.0.0 will occur on December 21, 2012, and it has been discussed in many New Age articles and books that this will be the end of this creation or something else entirely. However, the Maya abbreviated their long counts to just the last five vigesimal places. There were an infinite number of larger units that were usually not shown. When the larger units were shown (notably on a monument from Coba), the end of the last creation is expressed as 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13 .13.13.13.0.0.0.0, where the units are obviously supposed to be 13s in all larger places. In this age we are only approaching 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0 , and the larger places are nowhere near the 13s that would match the end of the last creation. (Schele and Friedel 1990: 430)[/b]

My opinion about 2012?

2012 is just like 21th of march. The end of the winter and the beginning of spring. But the weather in spring can still be dodgy! It still can snow, freeze or rain...

Hope this makes sense

HAH I can spam again! lol > My blog about 2012 (and other stuff)

Originally Posted by Tsen

Er...hate to break it to you--the Mayan calendar was moderately accurate for its time. That's it. Compared to modern calendars, it's off quite a bit. Even compared to a few calendars developed during similar time periods by other civilizations, it had its flaws--hell, their calendar only had 360 days, and was filled with meaningless bloat. [/b]

I thought there were other civilisations who had the same 360 days calendar... they even had mythology talking about the change from the 360 to the 365 days calendar? I could be wrong though, have a bad memory

But you can't say our calendar is that good neither... we have to add one day every 4 years and lets not forget that one of our popes made a serious fuck up with the calendar some centuries ago...

But you are right about the sacrificing and the bloodshed

I wish the world would come to an end .. no matter how - just have it all end you know
... nothing happens anyway.

I thought there were other civilisations who had the same 360 days calendar... they even had mythology talking about the change from the 360 to the 365 days calendar? I could be wrong though, have a bad memory[/b]

No, there were no such myths in circulation.

But you can't say our calendar is that good neither... we have to add one day every 4 years[/b]

No, actually that's the reason why our calendar is more accurate--
There are exactly 365.25 days for each complete loop around the sun the earth makes--so we have a calendar with 365 days and one extra every four years--Hence we're more closely matching the actual time of earth's revolution around the sun.

I mean, hell, if the Mayan calendar was the most accurate ever created, we'd be using it now!

and lets not forget that one of our popes made a serious fuck up with the calendar some centuries ago... [/b]

And?

Hostile tone in your post Tsen (imho)... but let's ignore that...

Originally Posted by Tsen

No, there were no such myths in circulation.[/b]

There is a legend about the change from the 360 to the 365 days calendar, but like I thought it's in an other civilisation. And I quote:
"This legend was itself based on the fact that 1/72 over 360 days, the length of the year in the older Egyptian calendar, produces 5 whole days, reflecting the duration of the newer 365 day Egyptian calendar."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_Osiris_and_Isis

"In the beginning, there was the mighty god Ra and his wife Nut. Nut was in love with the god Geb. When Ra found out about this union he was furious. In his rage, he forbid Nut to have children on any of the 360 days that currently made up the year. Nut was very sad. She called on her friend, Thoth, to help her. He knew that Ra's curse must be fulfilled, but he had an idea. Thoth engaged the moon goddess, Silene, in a wager. At the time, Silene's light (the moon) rivaled the light of Ra (the sun). Thoth was victorious, he was rewarded with one seventh of Silene's light. This is why the moon now wanes each month. Thoth took this light and added five days to the calender, bringing the year from 360 days to 365. This gave Nut 5 days on which she could have children, while at the same time obeying Ra's commandment. On the first of these days, Nut gave birth to Osiris. On the second day Horus was born, Seth on the third, Isis the fourth, and Nephthys on the fifth day. At the time of Osiris' birth, a loud voice was heard all over the world, saying, "The lord of all the earth is born."

source: here

Perhaps there are more such legends, I do not know...

Originally Posted by Tsen

No, actually that's the reason why our calendar is more accurate--[/b]

Perhaps it is very accurate I do not know I'm no scholar. But what I do know is that our calendar is quite unlogic (imho). I mean 31 days, 28 days, 31 days, 30 days... Not very logical...

Originally Posted by Tsen

There are exactly 365.25 days for each complete loop around the sun the earth makes--so we have a calendar with 365 days and one extra every four years--Hence we're more closely matching the actual time of earth's revolution around the sun.[/b]

You are probably right, not really in the mood to verify your statements. But I do want to mention that not all calendars are aimed at the sun. But you probably already knew that

Originally Posted by Tsen

I mean, hell, if the Mayan calendar was the most accurate ever created, we'd be using it now! [/b]

Not so sure about that... There are a lot of other calendars who are a lot more accurate. We don't use it... We use the crappy Gregorian one.

Originally Posted by Tsen

And?
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I had the feeling you sounded as though the western world/thinking had no faults... I was trying to suggest the western culture also made mistakes and also didn't have a "perfect" calendar...

listen, people thought the world would end on the 6th of the 6th 2006...right...that didnt happen, odds are that nothing will happen, if god does exist he probably will not reveal himself the instant before judging people to go to heaven or hell, maybe something will happen, but i highly doubt it, there have been many wrong predictions when it comes to the end of the world and i understand that the maian calendar ends on that day, but that doesnt prove anything, it just proves that their calender wasnt consistent enough to continue going which a calender needs to do because it should eventually repeat to be renewaled like ours do each year...

I think nothing happens in 2012. Everything will go on as usual. People will go "Wtf? I thought shit was supposed to happen", and it's all just bullocks. Bullocks. Ha-ha.

Originally Posted by TweaK

I think nothing happens in 2012. Everything will go on as usual. People will go "Wtf? I thought shit was supposed to happen", and it's all just bullocks. Bullocks. Ha-ha.
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yep

Y2K Part II
"now it's payback"

"their" world ended a looooot before 2012, so it seems they had been a little too optimistic on their life expectation, those mayas....

anyway: Sure something will happen: i will graduate and conquer the world!!!
(or maybe you call it postgradate, don't know the corrispondances)

Dude, my last post wasn't angry in any sense...but perhaps you thought there was. It's hard to convey and accurately read emotion in a body of text.

Anyway:

There is a legend about the change from the 360 to the 365 days calendar, but like I thought it's in an other civilisation.[/b]

Alright. Guess I was wrong there, but I was under the impression you meant the Mayan civilization. Still, that's rather irrelevant--it isn't a myth about future civilizations switching to 365 day calendars, it's about their current civilization switching calendars.

But what I do know is that our calendar is quite unlogic (imho). I mean 31 days, 28 days, 31 days, 30 days... Not very logical... [/b]

I think you meant illogical. Anyway, I never argued that--I said that it was more accurate. Our current calendar more accurately reflects the length of a year--365 days, plus an extra every leap year. To the person earlier who suggested that not all calendars are based on rotation around the sun, you are partially correct--some calendars focus more on the moon's cycles, but the definition of a year is the time the earth takes to rotate around the sun, which is 365.256 363 051 days. There are some slight variations on this, like how long the earth takes to complete a rotation around the sun relative to the equator, or relative to its apsides, etc. These lengths vary slightly, from 365.242 189 67 to 365.259 635 864 days. The variations are relatively small, so we just round it to 365.25 days.


Now, I'm still waiting for somebody to explain to me why you bother believing that the Mayan's religious-based calendar is accurate in its predictions, but you DON'T believe in the rest of their religion. What's the deal?

Illogical, Unlogical... English ain't my native language so cut my some slack thx

Do I believe in the mayan prediction? Well first of all I do not believe in the prediction that the world will end or whatever... I do believe in a seasonal cycle like we have on our planet (spring, summer, fall, winter) but then on an universal level. Just like we experience these cycles so does our planet have these cycles. Now I'm not saying the weather will change (it probably will but not because of those cycles, but because of our pollution). I'm saying that the mentallity of the human culture will change.

I do believe in that. Not in the end of the world.

Why do I believe in that? Because there are other cultures talking about the same things. The Greek, The Vikings, The Hindus and if I'm not mistaken the Egypts also had this theory (not sure though). The Chinise have something similar but you can't really say it's the same. I'm talking about the I Ching now.

The change of those Ages is round 2000 - 2012 (starting of the Age of Aquarius too). Now I'm not asking you to believe all this, I'm merely saying what I've read about these things.

I do find the sacrificial aspect interesting though... It is impossible to truely understand their way of life because of the biased historical texts we have. Let's not forget the Spanish terrorized their country and we almost only have the Spanish sources to know aspects of their civilizations. If you'll read in a hundred year about the War that's going on now in Iraq, I doub't you'll have a neutral History.

Perhaps the sacrificing was a way of birth control? Perhaps it was something else. But even today there are aspects in other cultures we do not understand but are common for that culture. I think about circumcision, ofcourse not as cruel as sacrificing, but still cruel. I never understood this ritual, but for the Jews it is a very important ritual.

I hope you catch my drift?

Originally Posted by Seeker

I really hate to be a wet blanket here and I have read a lot of threads about 2012 when the Mayan calendar ends.

I'd like to propose the following alternative theory:

The guy that was creating the calendar got bored and decided someone else could pick up the task in a few hundred years. You know plenty of time to continue the work before 2012. Why should he be spending all of his time doing it when there were probably more worthwhile and productive things he could be doing?
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Thank you... It shouldn't have taken four replies for someone to have said that...

OH SNAP!

The world ends in 2099! That's the highest year that my computer's calendar goes up to!

DOOM!

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

To quote myself:

Originally Posted by Seeker

Would the world just end already so I can be freed from people constantly telling me how it's about to end?
Either that, or next time you think the world is about to end, just hold your breath until you asphyxiate. It won't matter anyway, right? Asphyxia is pretty tame compared to fire and brimstone. Additionally, you wouldn't be around anymore to annoy the surviving (i.e. sane) population, so everyone wins.
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Originally Posted by Seeker

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HAHAHAHA

I heard some stand-up during the Y2K hype, about this dude who was sitting there on his front steps in NY freaking out at 11:30 pm...and then he says "If God wanted the world to end tonight at midnight...why the hell would he do it on Eastern Standard Time?"

Maybe 2012, some country will get pissed off for not hosting the olympics, and blow us all up. HOW DID THE MAYANS KNOW?

Originally Posted by Orcanta

HOW DID THE MAYANS KNOW?
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Because they were magic men that could see the future.