Now you done gone and really pissed God off!
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I am an atheist because I have personally never experienced anything that would suggest the truth of the (christian) bible.
Thus I have no choice but to NOT accept christ as my saviour (as I do not believe in him).
Does this mean I go to hell?
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Is that justice? That I go to hell for something I have no control over?

Yes, Burn BURN!!!!
Funny when they say we have a choice, but if we pick the wrong one we are doomed in pain forever. HAHAHAHAHA yeah, we got a choice all right, pick me or Stay The F*** Out!!!!! listen to a book that's thousands and thousands of years old, it's not pure when people change the way the book says things they don't like in the ages. Maybe i'll edit the bible and say hell exists on earth? hell IS earth, and all the worlds problems (well created by humans). Let's make a time machine and go back before religion started and teach them science???? imagine what earth would look like today if it was science rather then religion?
CAN I GET AN AMEN???
That which is "Christ" is already within you
Its not a mater of accepting, its a matter of realizing
Realizing such also brings realization that you are already in "hell"
You, yourSelf, must save yourself
There is nothing external to do it for you


I don't see any "what if"s in the OP--looks like a question to Christians about what they believe.
Slightly off topic, traditional Buddhist cosmology includes six realms, of Gods, Demigods, Humans, Animals, Hungry Ghosts and Demons. Rebirth in any of the six depends upon your attachments and habitual emotional responses, and particularly your state of mind when you die (usually determined by your habitual responses). If you're in the habit of responding with fear and anger, you've likely spent a good chunk of this life on the edge of Hell, and when your elements disentangle upon death, most of your mindstream is likely to reemerge in a less pleasant place.
If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama

If you're an atheist, do you even beleive in Hell? I hope (not believe) that being part of a religion basically signs you up for its choices of afterlife. I.E. if you're a Hindu (or is it a Buddist?) you will be reincarnated, if you're Christian you'll end up in Heaven, Hell or Purgatory, if you're an atheist you will cease to experience anything. If this was so, Atheism looks set to be a good get out of Hell or being brought back to life as a rock.
There is a Hell, it's a town in the Cayman Islands, you should go there, I love the Caymans.
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That's a ridiculously juvenile, fairy-talesque way of looking at it.
The OP asks about the CHRISTIAN hell. We are clearly not in the Christian hell, as there are no lakes of fire, eternal pain, devils, or any other hellish paraphernalia present.Realizing such also brings realization that you are already in "hell"
i guess the christianity says you will go to hell (but i ain't sure), but why believe in it if you're a atheist?

Its the fear of hell which binds people to God and religion.
Crossing the line and getting past it all is the biggest step.
Hell is impossible. In fact, the whole concept of living forever and not dying from harsh punishments seems rather impossible to me after i was dead. Kinda defeats the object of dieing really lol.
This is entirely untrue and incredibly ignorant thing to say.
Most christians do are not 'bound to god' by fear. We choose to believe not because we are afraid, although that can be A motivator, but because we KNOW that god exsists. I originally began looking for god because of my stressful home situation, not because of a fear of god or hell. I am over that stressful situation and it is not fear of hell that keeps me believing but the love and the strength in god that I have found sense I began believing.
Last edited by Lucid_boy; 02-13-2008 at 03:18 PM.
Infinitly greater than you are... Damn that missing E.
To answer the OP, yes, you would end up in hell.
Infinitly greater than you are... Damn that missing E.
No, I am simply saying that it is not fear that binds most to god.
Infinitly greater than you are... Damn that missing E.
I "believe" in lucid dreams, in return they give me strength, love, and other sexy things.
What's the difference?
Your point is valid and because of the way god has set things up-so little proof of himself-I will try to answer as best I can.
Diffrences:
1.The numbers-I know this is a VERY weak argument but the number of believers must be taken into consideration. The numbers alone show that god is MORE LIKELY, notice I didn't say is more real, to be more real than your LD's
2. the Miraculous happenings-Millions around the world find proof for god in small Unexplainable wonders. This agian is not solid proof that god is more real than your LD's but it is better than the previous reason.
3. Complexity-I have, as I stated in one of my previous posts, learned alot about how the complexity of life could be because of chance and doesn't completely prove God or his work. However, I am still convinced that something so complex as our universe can't be the work of chance.
4. Time-Another diffrence between god and your dreams , even though this in no way proves god and I'm not saying it does, is that god has been believed in for more than 1000yrs.
5. Historical evidence-God has been supported very minimally by historical evidence were as your dreams have not.
Infinitly greater than you are... Damn that missing E.
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