Thread: Better than Galantamine! Amino Acid Blend.

100% succesrate? Man couldn't you have posted this yesterday! lol.. I just bought choline bitatrate today ^^ it's supposed to increase recall and improve brain functions.

I'll also try that Amino Acid Blend, 100% succesrtate sounds insane..

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

I'll also try that Amino Acid Blend, 100% succesrtate sounds insane..

You must remember, there were only four attempts, and he tested it on himself. But, it certainly has potential.

i dont take suplaments but thoes dosages seem REALLY HIGH! is that a normal dose of something or would you be swallowing like 20 pills?!?

A pill is usually around 500mg afaik, atleast the pills I bought, so I guess its a normal dose

Originally Posted by joshbotch

i dont take suplaments but thoes dosages seem REALLY HIGH! is that a normal dose of something or would you be swallowing like 20 pills?!?

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

A pill is usually around 500mg afaik, atleast the pills I bought, so I guess its a normal dose

Yea, probably one pill each. I have a bottle of Choline Bitartrate at 550mg a pill.

Come on people! Better than Galantamine.

i'll give it a try, what are the individual suppliments for?

Originally Posted by joshbotch

i'll give it a try, what are the individual suppliments for?

From the article:

Amino acid blend (AAB):
"In order to better study the effects of glutamateric activation, a blend of three
complimentary amino acids was used: L-aspartic acid, L-glutamine, and Ltheanine.
This combination was designed to preferentially activate NMDA
glutamate receptors. Aspartate (the conjugate base of aspartic acid) is a directNMDA agonist. The ability of aspartic acid to cross the blood brain barrier is
limited however, to an easily saturated transport mechanism [7] thus the addition
of glutamine and theanine. Glutamine easily crosses the blood brain barrier where
it can then transform into glutamate (the general agonist for all glutamate receptor
types). Theanine also crosses the blood brain barrier and serves a dual purpose:
stimulating the release of dopamine and antagonizing specific glutamate receptor
subtypes. The fact that theanine is thought to preferentially antagonize the AMPA
and Kainate receptor subtypes by an order of magnitude more than the NMDA
receptor subtype [5], should allow preferential binding of the available glutamate
to the NMDA receptors. The dosages used for all tests incorporating this amino
acid blend were 2000mg L-aspartic acid, 4000mg L-glutamine, 300mg Ltheanine".

I saw that study when I was making the Supplement repository. 4 tests is not a case study, 40 is minimum to make a proper normal curve.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

I saw that study when I was making the Supplement repository. 4 tests is not a case study, 40 is minimum to make a proper normal curve.

Yeah, I made that clear in th OP.

I've tried L-Glutamine and L-Theanine without the other ingrediant. I didn't try the dose in the study though. I tried 1000mg L-Glutamine and 200mg L-Theanine once, nothing, and 2000mg L-Glutamine and 200mg L-Theanine once, still nothing. My L-Glutamine is 1000mg capsules, the L-Theanine is 200mg, I'm not sure if it is really safe to take 4000mg of L-Glutamine at once, at least in capsule form as it would be 4 capsules of Glutamine and 2 of L-Theanine. If anyone knows of the safety of this let me know.

I did have succes with 1000mg L-Glutamine and a 750mg Green Tea supplement that contains L-Theanine, not sure the amount and it also contains 50mg of caffeine. I suspect that had a big part in why I became lucid, this was taken as a WBTB supplement.

L-Glutamine:
-http://www.anyvitamins.com/glutamine-info.htm#Dosage says:
"No clear toxicity has emerged in glutamine studies, but it should not be taken by people suffering from liver or kidney problems".
-http://www.thewayup.com/newsletters/041501.htm says:
"DOSAGE
As with any free form amino acid, Glutamine should always be taken with pyridoxal-5-phosphate which regulates the absorption, metabolism & conversion of all amino acids.
The usual dose recommended in my practice is 4000-5000 mg anywhere from 1-3 times daily between meals & not later than 3pm"


L Theanine from wikipedia
"Studies on test rats have shown that even repeated, extremely high doses of theanine cause little to no harmful psychological or physical effects".

According to multiple sources, they are safe at the dosages in the experiment.

i went looking for these suppliments but couldn't find any of them... do they have different/ more common names?

From what I read ref: Yuschak.

Even though he got 4 times lucid in a row they were of short duration and not very satisfying experiences.

But it is your body. I am not the boss of your body.

Originally Posted by joshbotch

i went looking for these suppliments but couldn't find any of them... do they have different/ more common names?

I could only find glutamine. Although I know that Theanine is in Green Tea supplements. You could try bying them online.#

Originally Posted by dallyup52

From what I read ref: Yuschak.

Even though he got 4 times lucid in a row they were of short duration and not very satisfying experiences.

But it is your body. I am not the boss of your body.

Yeah, but all I'm looking for is lucidity, from there other things can be easily done.

Unfortunately, not everyone has had the same level of success with the Amino Acid blend that Thomas Yuschak had.

My own rate of success with this blend is around 10 percent, while the galantamine has worked for me over 80 percent of the time.

Originally Posted by iadr

Unfortunately, not everyone has had the same level of success with the Amino Acid blend that Thomas Yuschak had.

My own rate of success with this blend is around 10 percent, while the galantamine has worked for me over 80 percent of the time.

Ah, I see. Interestingly, some find that Galantamine doesn't work for them at all. It shows that individual differences are pertinent in in this area; it is useful to experiment with more than one of the recommended supplements it in order to find success.

I found a new combination of recommended supplements that worked for me last night. I need to try it again tonight, then I may release it to the forum.

And it may be that the supplements don't cause a Lucid experience at all. they might just help give you the mental awareness to remember the experience. So if you don't have the experience it may have nothing to do with the supplements.

Originally Posted by dallyup52

And it may be that the supplements don't cause a Lucid experience at all. they might just help give you the mental awareness to remember the experience. So if you don't have the experience it may have nothing to do with the supplements.

I see what your saying: of course there is no lucidity button in our brains. But each substance offers different benefits to increase the likely hood of lucidity. Galamantine raises the levels of acetylcholine, but decreasing acetylcholine agonists. Acetylcholine is linked to REM sleep. A substance that makes a dream more vivid could also be beneficial in inducing a lucid state. I could go on....

Originally Posted by psychology student

Ah, I see. Interestingly, some find that Galantamine doesn't work for them at all. It shows that individual differences are pertinent in in this area; it is useful to experiment with more than one of the recommended supplements it in order to find success.

I found a new combination of recommended supplements that worked for me last night. I need to try it again tonight, then I may release it to the forum.

Well.. I still have a lot of this trifecta of supplemtents left. I'm going to start using it again.. this time at the beginning of the night. I've also got a nicotine patch that I think I'll add later on some nights. Do any of you brain scientists know if this might be a helpful interaction?

Well, this did induce a small spontaneous lucid dream for me the other night.. I barely remembered it when I got up in the morning, but this definitely boosted my dreams. I haven't used the nicotine patch either.

I still don't know;
Is this better to do before going to sleep; or waking up in the middle of the night and taking it?

during your WBTB they should be taken.

so are these available at a local vitamin store? and should it be like, if they are the pills, should be all taken at once then?

Yes widely available and yes you take all the pills at the same time or one after the other but all during a WBTB