Thread: Drugs/dream Control

6 out of 12 of my lucid dreams happened on nights in which i was high.

point being, weed doesn't seem to hinder my ability to lucid dream.

Weed doesnt hinder your ability to LD but it does make you more lazy so you are less likely to attempt techniques and just say "whatever... I feel to good to do anything tonight"...

Originally Posted by Ev

Weed doesnt hinder your ability to LD but it does make you more lazy so you are less likely to attempt techniques and just say "whatever... I feel to good to do anything tonight"...
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Wrong. I have smoked weed since learning about LDs. I have for the last 3 months done techniques ever night, now have a DJ thats 40 pages full of dreams, and have had 1 LD. Every singe night I attempt a WILD, WHILE HIGH and can easily get into SP. I also wake up 3 times a night and write down dreams. And yes, I get VERY high.

Hmmm little exessive, but I've done my work here.

Marijuana suppresses REM sleep. It also hinders your ability to remember dreams in the morning. That is all I have heard.

That being said, the other night I had a lucid dream (and rememberd everything) while getting very high that night.

Weed doesnt hinder your ability to LD but it does make you more lazy so you are less likely to attempt techniques and just say "whatever... I feel to good to do anything tonight"...[/b]

Useally when I smoke, I can't stop thinking about LDs. I will do constate reality checks, and spend hours just reading lucid dream books. I can't get enough of it when I'm stoned. Maybe thats just me.

Originally Posted by ojdp

Useally when I smoke, I can't stop thinking about LDs. I will do constate reality checks, and spend hours just reading lucid dream books. I can't get enough of it when I'm stoned. Maybe thats just me.
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Same here, I will stay online reading about LDing for hours all the time.

i havent gone to bed sober in 10 years.
i still have lucid dreams fine, same with recall.

Originally Posted by SeventhGeneration

i havent gone to bed sober in 10 years.
i still have lucid dreams fine, same with recall.
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That is ridiculous! I cannot beleive that, lol.


Anyways, It was just a myth I have heared so I thought I would post it... It doesnt effect me either.

Ya, it makes sense that it might impair your LD'ing abilities.
But it doesn't thankfully.
I find that I have a higher succesrate if i'm nice and stoned before bed.
I can focus and relax better. Having a WILD my first dream of the night.

I hear that if you go to bed high, the next night, your REM is kicked into overdrive because you didnt get the same ammount of REM when you were going to bed buzzed or w/e. So yeah... also like all my dreams involve me smoking pot which is strange, but It doesnt affect control or anything.

Weed may affect different people differently. I can remember dreams and LD just fine after getting really high. The problem is I become so lazy, the "maintenance" of awareness becomes so pricy that I just let go at some point without clearly recording that loss of awareness. After that I feel too lazy to do techniques if I wake up in the middle of the night cause I feel really good.

An example: I get really high, stay awake for a couple hours thinking, having fun. I get deep thoughts that are supplemented by a kind of dreamy closed eye visuals. After a couple hours I get really tired and go to bed. The imagery intensifies but I'm just too damn tired to keep up with it.

I can remember dreams from "high" nights pretty clear but I rarely bother to write them down or even think about them.

Ya. Damn being a lazy stoner. It bites you in the ass somedays.

Weed make you better at LDing in all areas, it is the best way to become a good LDer, you should all smoke weed if you take LDing seriously.

UNLESS YOU GO TO BED WASHED

Good to know im not the only toker here lol! I find I think about lucid dreaming more when im high

Originally Posted by sweetshoes18

Does smoking drugs such as pot effect the ability to become lucid? If so, in what ways?

I would assume it would make the process more difficult because of the inablilty to think clearly, but I must say that I think much clearer when under its effects.
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what ive herd and experienced, if one smokes pot often, you dont remember your dreams as clearly as usual, ive experienced it and some of my friends says it aswell.
but becoming lucid should probably dont be harder or anything what i knoa of.

The thing is. There's 1000nds of Different types of Marijuana.
AK47, bubblegum, White Widow, Super Skunk, White Dynamite, Purple Haze, Colombian, Thai, Northern Lights, Silver Pearl....etc it doesn't stop.

And every type of weed has it's own specific effects. The main Marijuana-high is the same.
For instance smoking good dried White widow weed will make you very euphoric, Give a strong Mind high and Mood lift, And gives a powerfull relaxed Physical ''stoned'' sensation.
Smoking some K2 weed will have very strong ''downing'' depressant effects on you and make you very tired, kind of wasted and lethargic instead of high and euphoric.

I guess Smoking Hash would be the best way to use THC to your Lucid Advantage: It doesn't ''fuck you up kinda'' like some low quality weed sometimes does, It brings a relaxed body/mind high, much more subtle and easy going high.

Hash is therefor a good premeditation aid to get you in a Calm clear state of Mind. Smoking Hash + dried Alsem leafs and buds(Wormwood:Artemisia Absinthium) in a Joint will give you a super aware, very clearminded focussed state of Conciousness: very desirable for meditation...and maybe Lucid Dream Induction too.

Maybe after a little experimenting with the right dosage and time of smoking before sleep, maybe in a WBTB-fashion we can figure out how to let the effects of these mindclearing psychoactives come to their Right properly and use it to induce a desirable focused state of Mind great for Lucid Dreaming.

AK47, bubblegum, White Widow, Super Skunk, White Dynamite, Purple Haze, Colombian, Thai, Northern Lights, Silver Pearl, Blueberry Haze, Bizar, Sticky Haze, Harlem Diesel, Cherry Bomb, Super Silver Haze, Stella Blue, White Smurf, Mk-Ultra, Brainstorm, Sweet Tooth, Afganika, Yellow Cab, Ivory, Sege, Desert Storm, Sneek, Twister, K2, Morning Glory, TRAINWRECK. I thought I'd add more.

I never actully took that into consideration... Thanks for the feedback guys

That was how i originally got into this. I had one dream that was not lucid, but so vivid that i remembered the entire thing. I dont view that as a dream i view it as an experience... it was awesome. I was high... really high...

for some minority, smoking weed does not hurt thier dream ability.

i smoked at least once a day for year and lost a lot ofprogress in LDing. most people cannot remember thier dreams when they smoke. smoking weed has some effect on sleep and the REM cycle, i believe its called REM rebound or something where it is delayed but then comes on stronger...which may account for why some people seem aided by it. overall, its up to the person. if you find you cant remember your dreams well than stop smoking on days you want to try to LD, it will seriously solve that problem. i have a friend who's smoked constantly for years and he JUST stopped cuz he cant find any and just from hearing me talk about LD's all the time he's accomplishd more than i have in a week. he's amazed at his ability to recall dreams, like its reopened the world of dreams and LD's to him. i find that inspiring.

Well I went to bed high everyday for around 2 month's, and then I took a break and my dream's were more crazy than usual. I alway's can remember my dream's no matter if I'm high or not. I don't know if it was linked to me not smoking or what my dream's were insane for a couple day's.

Are me and Ev the only non-stoners here?

Originally Posted by art

for some minority, smoking weed does not hurt thier dream ability.

i smoked at least once a day for year and lost a lot ofprogress in LDing. most people cannot remember thier dreams when they smoke. smoking weed has some effect on sleep and the REM cycle, i believe its called REM rebound or something where it is delayed but then comes on stronger...which may account for why some people seem aided by it. overall, its up to the person. if you find you cant remember your dreams well than stop smoking on days you want to try to LD, it will seriously solve that problem. i have a friend who's smoked constantly for years and he JUST stopped cuz he cant find any and just from hearing me talk about LD's all the time he's accomplishd more than i have in a week. he's amazed at his ability to recall dreams, like its reopened the world of dreams and LD's to him. i find that inspiring.
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I'll comment here too...

I was a daily smoker for quite some time. I had lost total ability of dream recall. I can't imagine being a strong daily smoker in any way can help, truthfully.

Anyways when I quit smoking, I believe it was that night of less smoke, or the following night, which I had vivid dream recall - and realized what I had been missing all along. I realize everyone is different, but I have a strong feeling if you wait 8+ hours after a high, dream recall should be greater for the average person.

I could do an experiment one of these days since I don't smoke. I could try it say 4 hours before bed and see what happens. Followed by directly before bed as well a few days later. Won't be too soon though, sorry.

I don't know about drugs, but I've been drunk every night this week (freshers week), and I've had a - short - lucid dream 4/5 of them. I havn't really been doing any RC or MILD/WILD either.

I don't condone getting drunk every night just to lucid dream though.

Well I smoked the other night (not a smoker anymore except that night) to see if dream recall would suffer. It was some nug about 5 hours before sleep. In my opinion I have roughly 90-95% dream recall every night.

What happened this night?

0 dream recall.

The moral here: Don't smoke pot. You're losing dreams.

They say everyone's different. I'll believe that. I don't however believe that the overall effects of pot on people are different, sorry. You may remember X amount of dreams, but that's still X amount less than what you could be without smoking.