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    healthly dose melatonin B6

    Anyone know a healthly doseage of melatonin and B6 and if it should be used daily?

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    I've done a lot of research on both of those and you can take as much melatonin as you want. Although only three mg should put you out, you can take 3000 with no side effects

    As for B6: I'm not sure. Some places say that 2g a day is risky and then other places say that 2g a month is risky. Sites I've been to recommend 25mg-500mg a day... although after looking into it a bit more, I concluded that 150mg a day is moderately safe... although I only take 100.

    I hope that helps


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    okay thanks man. IVE BEEN only takin 50mg of B6 i because i wasent really sure if that much was safe. how many mg make up a gram? 1000?

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    okay thanks man. IVE BEEN only takin 50mg of B6 i because i wasent really sure if that much was safe. how many mg make up a gram? 1000?
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    3000 mg!!!! That sounds a little extreme!

    Keep it down to 3-6mg(melatonin) and 50mg (b6) twice a week. Higher dosages are counter-productive. Your body DOES become used to this stuff.

    I've noticed that after only a week of every-night use that 3mg no longer has an effect on me.
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    Originally posted by Seeker
    3000 mg!!!! That sounds a little extreme!

    Keep it down to 3-6mg(melatonin) and 50mg (b6) twice a week. Higher dosages are counter-productive. Your body DOES become used to this stuff.

    I've noticed that after only a week of every-night use that 3mg no longer has an effect on me.
    and if you use it twice a week, you still have an effect ?
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    I just discovered B6 helps LD's (thanks Ev). I checked my cabinet and discovered I have some B6, however I got it because my doctor said that I needed to take 1 pill (don't know how many mg) and a calcium pill and I forgot the other one, every day to combat PMS (I was having it bad for a while, and it was due to lots of things, stress, bad eating habits, so on).

    So, taking B6 everyday was prescribed by my doctor to balance me out. I NEVER thought in a million years it would help LD's.

    Anyone know exactly why?

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    is 100mg of b6 one night ok?

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    So, taking B6 everyday was prescribed by my doctor to balance me out. I NEVER thought in a million years it would help LD's.

    Anyone know exactly why? [/b]
    Dreams are caused by nerve impules from the top of your spine (or so) to the frontal lobe of your brain. B6 boosts you entire nervous system (among other things). so, when you take B6 before you sleep, the nerve impulses that turn into dreams are stronger and the nerves that carry those impules are healthier as well.

    I think that's it

    and yes, 100mg a night is fine as long as you're, say, 15 or older, Any younger has a very small chance of causing nerve damage


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    Originally posted by AvatarOfDeception
    I've done a lot of research on both of those and you can take as much melatonin as you want. Although only three mg should put you out, you can take 3000 with no side effects
    Uh, I wouldn't say that. 3000mg of melatonin would probably knock you out for a week or two. Or three.

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    melatonin is a hormone released from part of the brain called the pihneal gland which activates when it's dark; it makes you feel tired is all. It's a natural chemical that forms in your body and there's no known level of toxicity. Melatonin isn't a drug that induces a false tiredness like valium


    edit: http://www.melatonin.com/melatonin-faq.htm#SIDE

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    i found a pack of pills in my medicine cupboard. it says one pill has 15 mg of b6 in it. does 15 mg has any effect? and b6 is not the only vitamine in a pill, there is also b1, b2, b12 and some other stuff... do you think i can take it without any risks?
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    Originally posted by AvatarOfDeception
    melatonin is a hormone released from part of the brain called the pihneal gland which activates when it's dark; it makes you feel tired is all. It's a natural chemical that forms in your body and there's no known level of toxicity. Melatonin isn't a drug that induces a false tiredness like valium


    edit:http://www.melatonin.com/melatonin-faq.htm#SIDE
    Yeah, but 3000mg will definitely make you groggy in the mornings.
    Rule of thumb: If you don't wake up refreshed, you're taking too much, and its still in your system the next morning.
    Its not serious, because your body is pretty good at shedding itself of it in the mornings. Drink coffee
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    pretty much all vitamins execpt for A, and D are water souluble (i don't remember how to spell the word) meaning they dissovle in water. what does this mean to us? what ever the body doesn't need, the body will pee it out. chances of vitamin B doing any damage to you, is pretty much zero. especially in a pill form, why would anybody create/pkg/sell a dosage that is toxic to begin with? in a nutshell, vitamin b (and the rest of complex) are safe to take daily. the only side affect is that your urine will turn yellow. but not the dehadrated, brownish yellow. sometimes you will notice an odd odor. but the vitamins stink too. it's ok.

    p.s. vitamins A and D don't dissolve in water, so they can accumulate in the body. that's why it's bad to take to much A and/or D -toxicity, it's also bad to be diffecient too. (-duhhh ;p)

    my dad is/was a pharmacist, he knows about these kind of things. so far, i'm still alive. :)

    i would recommend mate, instead of coffee. it's good stuff. has vitamins, helps get you going in the morning, and it won't ruin your digestive track and kidneys like coffee will. mate is an argentinian tea. (accent over the "e")

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    I am definitely going to try this.

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    [quote] chances of vitamin B doing any damage to you, is pretty much zero. quote]
    I don't question your background, but I read up a lot on B6 before I started using it.
    And apparently large dosages over time can seriously impact your nervous system response in your legs and arms.
    This is according to research done, that is.
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    [quote]
    chances of vitamin B doing any damage to you, is pretty much zero. quote]
    I don't question your background, but I read up a lot on B6 before I started using it.
    And apparently large dosages over time can seriously impact your nervous system response in your legs and arms.
    This is according to research done, that is.
    i belive you. it's kinda like alcohol. i'm saying one glass of wine a day won't do anything. and your saying pounding it will catch up to you. ;)

    what is considered a large dose?

    here are the stats on my vitamins:

    company: nature made
    product: super b-complex (w/vitamin c)

    amount per tablet %daily value

    vitamin c 150mg 250%
    thiamin 100mg 6667%
    riboflavin 20mg 1176%
    niacin 25mg 125%
    b6 2mg 100%
    folic acid 400mcg 100%
    b12 15mcg 250%
    biotin 30mcg 10%
    pantothnic 5.5mg 55%
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    wow, good thing i didn't ask you where did you learn how to quote... ;p

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    Originally posted by AvatarOfDeception
    So, taking B6 everyday was prescribed by my doctor to balance me out. I NEVER thought in a million years it would help LD's.

    Anyone know exactly why?
    Dreams are caused by nerve impules from the top of your spine (or so) to the frontal lobe of your brain. B6 boosts you entire nervous system (among other things). so, when you take B6 before you sleep, the nerve impulses that turn into dreams are stronger and the nerves that carry those impules are healthier as well.

    I think that's it

    and yes, 100mg a night is fine as long as you're, say, 15 or older, Any younger has a very small chance of causing nerve damage


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    Just thought I'd note here that 100mg is typically how much an entire bottle of vitamin b6 contains.

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    Originally posted by lurker
    wow, good thing i didn't ask you where did you learn how to quote... ;p
    Harhar... sorry about that
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    Does anyone know whether for lucid dreaming the form of B6 with the active co-enzyme P5P (Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate) is better than the non-active one?

    I tried to buy B6 vits and the one I found had P5P I discovered after I left the store. It says it will be more effective. I hope so!
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    [size=24]Your all a bunch of Vitamin Junkies

    You all need to sort out your lifes and sign into a drug rehabilitation clinic and get clean

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    Nice one... I will assume you are joking even if you aren't. Some of us don't take massive amounts of vitamins and some us take vitamins because of diets we are on ( it is recommended in that case! and if it helps with dreaming, even better).

    Edit: Saw your smilie just now.. I should have checked before replying...
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    I can say both good things and bad things about B6.

    One night a couple of weeks ago, I took 450 mg of B6 along with 900 mg of Valerian Root Extract and went to sleep. I hadn't had an LD in a long time (months, maybe).

    About 3 hours later, I woke up. I felt incredibly awake; I never feel that awake in the mornings, or pretty much any time of the day. I kinda started freaking out. The only reference point I can offer is 2C-I (a psychedelic phenethylamine) devoid of the psychedelic component. It took me about 30 minutes to get back to sleep, but I did.

    About 3 hours later, I found myself in my bed, but my sense of touch felt all screwy. I got up, and I recognized the situation: I was dreaming. I was still scared that the B6 had really fucked me up, so I ended up waking up for real. If I had known waht to expect, I think I could've stayed asleep. It was my first LD in a long time.

    The next day I may have had a heightened sense of touch, or I may just have been paying too much attention to my sense of touch. Anyway, I'm definitely normal now.

    So yes, megadose B6 is bad, and yes, megadose B6 is a useful tool. Like anything, use carefully, and in moderation.

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    Vitamins A D E and K are all fat soluable have to much of them and they bank up in yuor adipose tissue (fat). Thats why people who eat heaps of carrots skin turn yellow, too much vitamin A.

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