Thread: How to accomplish anything even if your inexperienced

Originally Posted by Noogah

Because, if you believe that the belief currency will work, it will!.

That's hilarious. You assume that somebody would be able to believe in a system that encompasses every single "impossible" thing in lucid dreams, but they would put the effort into believing in that, instead of just believing that they can, lets say, fly.

I mean, I read your entire post, and up until you said that I took it somewhat seriously. But then you say that you have to believe in something which helps people with trouble believing.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Plain and simple. Such are the laws of lucid dreaming.

No and no.

Honestly, this system is incredibly overcomplicated. Putting tags on things that say how much you have to have in belief-points or whatever? Then making it into a smaller number so you don't have to believe as much? The only way this works is by distracting someone from the fact that the thing is impossible.

It goes against all logic too. Belief isn't a currency, and I'm not going to turn it into one.

Anyway, the best way to do things in dreams that are "impossible," just think, "I can do this because it's a dream." Some people say that will reduce the realism of your dream or some stupid shit like that, but nothing will happen if you don't over-think it.

This is counter productive, and should promptely be locked and even deleted. You are impressing upon the newbies that their dreams have limits. They do not. This is building up expectations and intentionaly letting them down, just to build them up again. I hope nobody else sees this.

Good call, pojmaster17q. Thanks.

Originally Posted by pojmaster17q

That's hilarious. You assume that somebody would be able to believe in a system that encompasses every single "impossible" thing in lucid dreams, but they would put the effort into believing in that, instead of just believing that they can, lets say, fly.

I mean, I read your entire post, and up until you said that I took it somewhat seriously. But then you say that you have to believe in something which helps people with trouble believing.



No and no.

Honestly, this system is incredibly overcomplicated. Putting tags on things that say how much you have to have in belief-points or whatever? Then making it into a smaller number so you don't have to believe as much? The only way this works is by distracting someone from the fact that the thing is impossible.

It goes against all logic too. Belief isn't a currency, and I'm not going to turn it into one.

Anyway, the best way to do things in dreams that are "impossible," just think, "I can do this because it's a dream." Some people say that will reduce the realism of your dream or some stupid shit like that, but nothing will happen if you don't over-think it.

I'm not saying this is a perfect system, but ITS good for people having trouble. What I meant was, if you take the system seriously, it should work for most things. It's make belive, of course! Belief isn't currency. It's your belief that the currency can act as belief that effects the matter. I'm not saying that belief is currency, I'm just saying that you can imagine that it is, and the system should normally work quite well.

Summed up, this is more of an aid to help improve someones confidence that something will work. Of course, it has flaws. Improvements would be helpful...

Why not just have confidence in the actual ability to fly in the first place?

Originally Posted by Reality_is_a_Dream

Why not just have confidence in the actual ability to fly in the first place?

That would be great! Problem is, some people don't. I mean, this post wasn't aimed at experienced users like you. It was aimed at beginners, or people who are simply having trouble.

All I am saying is that the belief and confidence required for this is far beond that required to preform the actual act in the dream. Even a noob is 100% sure he can do anything in his dreams untill someone tells him he can't.

Originally Posted by Reality_is_a_Dream

All I am saying is that the belief and confidence required for this is far beond that required to preform the actual act in the dream. Even a noob is 100% sure he can do anything in his dreams untill someone tells him he can't.

How right you are. I think it's already been conditioned into a noobs mind that he can't, though. Besides, I had trouble on my first time, and nobody told me that I would. But I do see your point.

wow why are you guys being so harsh?

I find it a neat idea to get around belief systems people have in dreams that prevent them from flying/ etc (like me).


did you come up with this or find it somewhere?

Originally Posted by Reality_is_a_Dream

This is counter productive, and should promptely be locked and even deleted.[...]I hope nobody else sees this.

Meh, nah, it can be considered/improved.

Originally Posted by Reality_is_a_Dream

You are impressing upon the newbies that their dreams have limits. They do not. This is building up expectations and intentionaly letting them down, just to build them up again.

True. I'm glad that you can see through some of the bullshit (not specifically your idea, noogah) about lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by wet_roof113

wow why are you guys being so harsh?

I find it a neat idea to get around belief systems people have in dreams that prevent them from flying/ etc (like me).


did you come up with this or find it somewhere?

Myself.

If you are having trouble accomplishing things in your dreams, start by asking a DC for help. They'll do anything for you as long as you're not a total dick about it. You'll probably only have to do this a few times before you start to understand that anything is possible and you don't need any help.

Wow alot of you are being assholes. If someone tries to contribute to the community you can't chop his head off with a clear conscience cause he was off the mark! I think maybe you should have taken a breath befoer typing anything and maybe try a little of being in this guys shoes. Jeez i'm disappointed with that reaction, really....