Thread: The ultimate aid?

Sounds good. May I suggest your record some other things, though?

How you slept, how long, what else you ate, how long before, etc...

Originally Posted by Delphinus

Sounds good. May I suggest your record some other things, though?

How you slept, how long, what else you ate, how long before, etc...

ok, np. I'm gonna add an apple to that mix, lol

i have a pb&j like everynite that has alot of omega3 in the bread, usually around 10 pm, and i always have lots of dreams the nite i have the pb&j. try it out yourself might work great

Originally Posted by LightningMunk

i have a pb&j like everynite that has alot of omega3 in the bread, usually around 10 pm, and i always have lots of dreams the nite i have the pb&j. try it out yourself might work great

Thanks for the info. I don't eat peanut butter, but, the salmon should be able compensate for that I'll post all my info tommorrow morning

not even peanut butter, but just the bread (and whatever u want on it i guess)....and salmon is supposed to work great too
please post results

I had canned tuna yesterday, along with 2 microwaved eggs (!), several bananas, several sodas and a boatload of hummus.

I was able to WBTB! I have been sleeping like a brick for the last 3 months and that really bothered me. I think most American's usually have an Omega-3 deficiency.

So, how'd it go?

Originally Posted by LightningMunk

not even peanut butter, but just the bread (and whatever u want on it i guess)....and salmon is supposed to work great too
please post results

Originally Posted by BigFan

Thanks for the info. I don't eat peanut butter, but, the salmon should be able compensate for that I'll post all my info tommorrow morning

Salmon sandwich.

Ingredients:
- Salmon(omega 3) @ 6-7pm
- Egg(Choline) @ 10:15-10:30pm
- 1 Granny Smith Apple(Acetylcholine) @ 10:45-11pm
- Green Tea with no sugar(L-therine) @ 12:30am
Slept @ 12:45-1am after ~5-10minute meditation(couldn't fall asleep before )

Result:
I had one vivid dream and was able to remember it. I am not sure how it started but I did remember it to the end, however, that was it. I wasn't able to recall any other dreams, although, I might remember some parts of the other dreams from everyday life. For example, I remembered a dream from yesterday when I heard a certain word mentioned

What does this mean? I'm thinking that the Salmon didn't have as much of an effect as I wanted, maybe because I took it sometime back, I mean ~6hours before I went to bed. I'm also wondering whether the apple helped the recall or not. In the apple thread a couple of them below, while some had good luck with drinking 1-2 cups of apple juice, others found that their recall was worse, maybe that's why I only remember one dream and no parts of the others. It could have also been the fact that the previous night, I awoke ~2h after I fell asleep and as a result, I remembered the first dream. To put it bluntly, not sure if the apples, salmon and egg helped the recall at all since the results seem on par with the previous dream of only green tea

Further Research: I'm interested in just trying 2 apples and green tea or a banana and green tea. Since green tea increased my recall the previous night, I'm interested in using that as a step up, so, if 2 apples allowed me to recall more dreams, it means that the combination is a good one, likewise with bananas or anything else I try with the green tea

Any notes: I have to say that while I'm not sure if what I experienced is the start of SP or not, my brain felt pretty odd when I went to bed. What I mean is it felt like there were circles which were closing right into the middle of my head and my hair was rising with them, it was pretty funny and relaxing

Hey, good job!

I'm interested as to how this will pan out...

Originally Posted by Delphinus

Hey, good job!

I'm interested as to how this will pan out...

Thanks, I would have loved to see more dreams though. I was expecting 2-3 dreams after this but I had too many factors My dream recall is just pathetic and I think its the main reason I ain't having LDs now. I plan to keep on drinking green tea every night, so, I know I'll at least remember one dream, but, hoping that I'll be able to increase the frequency with the apples or bananas, etc.... Unforunately, the banana one will have to wait, because, I just ate the last I'll try the apple one tonight and report the results in this thread. It'll make a good research project
One other thing to mention is that I had melted cheese last night, so, its possible that was a factor in the one dream remember thing. Anyways, I'll do more research and try to see if I can increase the frequency of my dreams. I'll make sure to update this thread exactly like the last post with all the details, times, what it means, etc..... Maybe we can find some good combo

I heard somewhere that milk helps also...Calcium perhaps?

Originally Posted by DudeSimpson

I heard somewhere that milk helps also...Calcium perhaps?

hmm, its quite possible I couldn't drink milk either way yesterday since I ate salmon, but, maybe I'll try that in some upcoming experiements. At the moment, I'm interested in finding some combinations that include green tea

a salmon sandwich!!

Yeah, Omega-3 definitely does the trick I didn't remember the dream but I have a sense, or feeling, that it was a pleasant one

I just take one "Chicken of the Sea" tuna can and mix it with a large heap of tasty hummus and I've had good effects.

But now I'm out of hummus

Maybe I'll take two cans and a banana tonight

A little update:
I decided to go with green tea + strawberries for tonight. We had some strawberries that have been in the fridge for a couple of days and prevent spoilage, I decided to eat them instead of the 2 apples. I'll do the apples tommorrow night. If I remember correctly, strawberries were the third on the list for antioxidants in the apples thread, so, I might have better luck. Finally, I've decided to try a WBTB to see if I can get a lucid, since, all my other tries were WILDing or DILDing when I went to bed, wish me luck

well i got a gatorade out of the vending machine today and i noticed it had 60% daily value of vitamin b6 in it...and i remember someone talking about gatorade, so that might be a solution

Bad news, I had a hard time sleeping last night. I ended up sleeping at around 2:30 starting from 12:45 and then woke up at 4 then at 5 because of the alarm. I tried to hit the pre-REM stage, assuming it goes 1.5h, so, woke up ~2.5h after sleeping with the presumption that REM hits at ~3h. Long story short, I couldn't fall asleep and I think its partially due to reading threads on DV for an hour, but, mostly because I just wasn't tried at all, so, I have no results from the green tea+strawberries experiment I will try the green tea+2 apples tonight and likely won't try a WBTB until I can make sure that I can fall asleep again One other thing is I could try doing a WBTB and drinking the green tea along with eating the 2 apples then. It would be nice to see if I would get different results if I was to do that instead of the take it before bed study

@LightningMunk Thanks for the gatorade thing

throw in some garlic with that fish sandwich!

garlic (pills) seems to especially help me out when my recall hits a bad funk.

Originally Posted by cygnus

throw in some garlic with that fish sandwich!

garlic (pills) seems to especially help me out when my recall hits a bad funk.

hmm, garlic pills? Never knew there was such a thing Thanks for the advice guys, I'll make sure to report on the apple experiment tonight and no WBTB for me

Originally Posted by LightningMunk

well i got a gatorade out of the vending machine today and i noticed it had 60% daily value of vitamin b6 in it...and i remember someone talking about gatorade, so that might be a solution

The recommended B6 taken to affect dreams is something like 500% of your daily value... Not to say it won't help because of something else... It just probably isn't B6.

Originally Posted by Delphinus

The recommended B6 taken to affect dreams is something like 500% of your daily value... Not to say it won't help because of something else... It just probably isn't B6.

500% of your daily value? wow, talk about overdosing on a vitamin

It's water soluable, so if you drink a healthy amount of water the next day, it shouldn't be a problem. (Even so, I wouldn't take it more than once a week.)

I also got that number wrong... It's about 5000%.

Also, BigFan. I've noticed green tea not working for me... I'm going to try drinking it about half an hour earlier than I normally do. (Just before going to sleep.)

Originally Posted by Delphinus

It's water soluable, so if you drink a healthy amount of water the next day, it shouldn't be a problem. (Even so, I wouldn't take it more than once a week.)

I also got that number wrong... It's about 5000%.

Also, BigFan. I've noticed green tea not working for me... I'm going to try drinking it about half an hour earlier than I normally do. (Just before going to sleep.)

yes, that's true, it is water soluble, forgot that part 5000%, wow, anyways, let's get straight to the actual experimentation For the green tea, well, it did seem to work on the first night, but, last night wasn't exactly good sleeping. What I meant is that I wasn't able to sleep until pretty late, then I woke up twice(4am and 5am), so, I would assume that I would have remembered one dream from my first REM period. Am I supposed to repeat the mantra "I'll remember my dreams"? I assumed I didn't have to, since, green tea shouldn't require it, although, it could strength my recall

I'll be going to bed soon, so, I'll give the green tea and 2 apples a try. I won't be trying a WBTB until tommorrow night. I won't repeat the mantra "I think I'm dreaming" because I didn't last time(far as I recall)