Thread: Why I believe dreams have outside influences

Wow, that is impressive.
Though this is a bit mystical, part of me wants to believe in it.

This about it yourself, concentrate, could this really happen? Why would it? Is there a reason it happens to you and no-one else?

Wonderful dream, all you need now is a dream journal.

it is possible,imho,imo there is a thin line betwen a dream and a OBE,a line that is very rearly crossed,but a line that is there non the less

Nice, in the dreams, we are more artistic, because in the dream I think that the artistic part of the mind works more, so, the phrase appeared in your way because of this...
Are you a lucid dreamer?
in your next lucid dream, try to make that girl appear...I think that would be interesting...

bye!

for me, lucid dreaming is hit or miss. When I do become lucid, all focus seems to shift to trying to escape from that dream sequence. I'll have to start keeping a better dream journal and see if there are patterns or influences I'm not remembering.

It seems as if the content of my dreams isn't really all that special but the occasional moments like this girls' phrase show up now and then and surprise me.

All that speculation at the end of my post was very random thoughts I was having while very sleepy. Still, I can't help but wonder if my mind really is that creative and I'm just not using it in waking life. Or, I'm being "shown" things for an unknown purpose.

Originally Posted by bransondude

Isn't it more likely that our minds are briefly carried away to interact in Dreamland? Or maybe my dreams are actually invading the dreams of others.

We may sometimes be too caught up with ourselves to realize it, but our lives are always invading the lives of others. No dreamland necessary for that

gotta deflate the discussion with a needle, huh? Can't just take my speculation at face value, gotta throw a rebuke instead?

Hm...interesting o.o
Well, I have heard that things we interact with every day do have a major influence in our dreams, but for some reason disguise themselves as cryptic symbols that we don't always pick up on.
When you said that you thought the phrase came from another person in that dreamland, did you mean a dc or a real person? I'm not sure what I think of people being able to interact through the land that dreams exist in, and I also don't know about there being a separate land other than our own that we visit when there are dreams. But I'm no professional or anything, it's definitely as possible as any other idea
Do you think you'll try and find this other person the message came from?

I've always thought we are more sensitive to the small events and brief encounters in our lives than we sometimes realize. The little things that almost go unnoticed sort of lodge themselves somewhere in our brain. As social creatures, I think a lot of this comes from interactions with people, no matter how fleeting. Like the random phrase that girl told you, some small or seemingly nonsinsical events just stick with us and change our day, our week, our whole life. Your original post just reminded me how important it is to cherish these small pieces we take from other people.

Think of how incredible it would be to share a dream with someone, especially in a vivid dream that almost felt like reality. How amazing would that be, to share such a beautiful and personal experience? Now think of how many opportunities you get every day to have these connections in your regular waking life that is more vivid and memorable than any dream. Sharing a small moment of your life with someone is a big deal, whether in a dream or in real life.

Originally Posted by bransondude

I've been having the boy-meets-girl dream quite a bit lately so that wasn't really unusual. The crazy thing is, that phrase "poor little light bright" stood out to me very very strongly. I've thought about it a lot and even searched online for that phrase and so far there is nothing that leads me to think that phrase came from me. It's absolutely foreign and not the sort of thing I would think up on my own. Some people would say that this came from some kind of sub-concious memory that I've lost to time or something, but I disagree. That phrase is unique and I really felt like it was coming from another individual in the Dreamland.

Well, why do you think that your subconscious can not come up with unique phrase? After all, when one write book, often words just come from "somewhere", you do not think consciously about them too often. In dreams our links between hemispheres and between consciousness and subconsciousness more stable, so actually there are nothing unusual that your subconsciousness was able to show to "you" or the consciousness dwelling in your body something that this consciousness had no idea about.

Originally Posted by bransondude

The girl was an artist, she was a cute white girl who liked making wall art (kinda like graffiti, with spray paint, but not gang art). In the dream, "I" liked this girl very much and had only recently met her. While talking to her by her wall where she was painting, she showed me a phrase she wrote on the wall "poor little light bright". She said it was a phrase she has said since childhood.

If she's an artist and it's something from childhood it could mean the "Lite Brite" toy from Hasbro that allows lighted pictures to be created.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lite-Brite
There's an old movie called Poor Little Peppina that has a cool looking poster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_Little_Peppina

I hope i helped i need the karma

Great post! This is something i have been wrestling with personally. You said you were unsure if this was something that your unconscious mind came up with or was already sitting there (input from waking life)waiting to be 'defragmented' by the sleeping mind...have you come to any conclusions on this speculation?

I think that this is one of the core questions of dreaming and lucid dreaming. To relate, i had a chance in an LD to ask a DC one question that i had in mind for a long time and finally got the chance. I asked her, "do you know that you are a part of my dream?". In response i received the most puzzling, cryptic, yet hilarious statement..."There are pills for that you know..."
I still think about it today and wonder if this was an answer that i would have come up with and my unconscious was just relating it to me or was it a totally original response from a dreamscape environment?
Your post seems to wrestle with the same type of question. If you get a chance please try this as i have yet to achieve it:

First, get lucid...Find a dictionary and look up a word in it that you have not heard of before and read the definition of that word. When you wake up, look up both the word and definition. If the word and definition match in waking life to that in your LD then there leaves little speculation over the connection of both planes. How could your unconscious mind come up with a word you have never heard or read before as well as the definiton to it unless it was connecting you to a knowledge outside of yourself and your conscious mind?

Originally Posted by bransondude

The other night I had a very peculiar dream. Let me start by saying I have had few lucid dreams, but they are almost always vivid and unusual. Anyway, this night I had a dream of a girl. The girl was an artist, she was a cute white girl who liked making wall art (kinda like graffiti, with spray paint, but not gang art). In the dream, "I" liked this girl very much and had only recently met her. While talking to her by her wall where she was painting, she showed me a phrase she wrote on the wall "poor little light bright". She said it was a phrase she has said since childhood. Later in the dream, she showed her affection by standing (in a very cute, junior high sort of way) by standing so close to me our hips were touching. We talked to some friends and I was elated. "Love is in the air.....Every time I look around..."

I've been having the boy-meets-girl dream quite a bit lately so that wasn't really unusual. The crazy thing is, that phrase "poor little light bright" stood out to me very very strongly. I've thought about it a lot and even searched online for that phrase and so far there is nothing that leads me to think that phrase came from me. It's absolutely foreign and not the sort of thing I would think up on my own. Some people would say that this came from some kind of sub-concious memory that I've lost to time or something, but I disagree. That phrase is unique and I really felt like it was coming from another individual in the Dreamland.

I often have dreams of places that are unfamiliar, with people who are strangers, having experiences I have no background with. How could the subconcious mind be creative in this way? It seems unlikely that the mind would set aside that sort of huge resource of creativity applied only to dreams. Isn't it more likely that our minds are briefly carried away to interact in Dreamland? Or maybe my dreams are actually invading the dreams of others. Actually, it's really late and I'm sleepy and this has ceased to make much sense even to me so I'll leave it right here.

Light bright? Are you a light-skinned black person? My roommate told me that Light Bright is a phrase her family uses to describe a light-skinned black person. A light bright is also a child's toy...you put colored glass pegs in holes...light shines through and shows a colorful, lighted picture