Thread: Ipod Or Zune? What Will Be Your Choice?

Neither, Zen M30.

Of course, I'm not planning on hacking it any, just going to use it for music, movies, and storage.

Apple forces you into iTunes
Microsoft restricts you as well.

Zen is more open and plays lots more formats.

BTW, moving this to Tech

iPod. Zune's a cripple.

Originally Posted by Tsen

iPod. Zune's a cripple.
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What he said.

Well, if you hack the zune a little its almost like ipod
cept the way you have to download music for its kinda stupid

Soon as someone figures out how to hack the wifi on it
zune will own

Im not gonna use the zune im getting for music really not for a while (im at my dads, and have no friends to bum music off of when i go to my moms where all my friends are then ill use it for music)
im prob gonna use it for brain wave stuff while i sleep etc and for storage and when they figure out how to put linux on it
then it'll be time for emulators

I agree, the WiFi will be cool once it's hacked, but Microsoft's gone and disabled EVERYTHING on the Zune. Then they added a separate, crippled piece of software instead of using their old one, ditched all their former business partners and screwed all their previous customers, and invented an arbitrary, backwards as hell means to purchase music through their store. I mean, I'm not a big fan of iTunes since all purchased music is in protected AAC format, so I can't burn it to a mp3 disk for my mp3 CD player. But at the very least, with iTunes you can buy music WITH ACTUAL CURRENCY. You don't have to buy "iPoints" which you can exchange for music at a weird, distorted exchange rate. Microsoft really just wanted to find a way to simultaneously screw people and make extra money.

So, yes, the Zune will be cool when it has been hacked. But here's all my beef with it as it stands right now:
-No scroll wheel. (I know, it's not a major issue, but it's something the iPod really nailed)
-Crippled WiFi
-No use as portable hard drive without hacks
-Cruddy software
-30 GB is the only size (I have a music library that's 48 GB and growing)
-No Podcasts
-No auto/smart playlists capability in the software (well, sort of)
-Can't use WiFi to purchase music directly to the player.

Other than that, I'd rather wait for the Apple iPhone to come out next year (it's official, by the way, they've begun production) and buy it instead. It'll probably include some sort of WiFi feature, plus it will be able to download directly to the player, which is cool.

Originally Posted by Tsen

I agree, the WiFi will be cool once it's hacked, but Microsoft's gone and disabled EVERYTHING on the Zune. Then they added a separate, crippled piece of software instead of using their old one, ditched all their former business partners and screwed all their previous customers, and invented an arbitrary, backwards as hell means to purchase music through their store. I mean, I'm not a big fan of iTunes since all purchased music is in protected AAC format, so I can't burn it to a mp3 disk for my mp3 CD player. But at the very least, with iTunes you can buy music WITH ACTUAL CURRENCY. You don't have to buy "iPoints" which you can exchange for music at a weird, distorted exchange rate. Microsoft really just wanted to find a way to simultaneously screw people and make extra money.

So, yes, the Zune will be cool when it has been hacked. But here's all my beef with it as it stands right now:
-No scroll wheel. (I know, it's not a major issue, but it's something the iPod really nailed)
-Crippled WiFi
-No use as portable hard drive without hacks
-Cruddy software
-30 GB is the only size (I have a music library that's 48 GB and growing)
-No Podcasts
-No auto/smart playlists capability in the software (well, sort of)
-Can't use WiFi to purchase music directly to the player.

Other than that, I'd rather wait for the Apple iPhone to come out next year (it's official, by the way, they've begun production) and buy it instead. It'll probably include some sort of WiFi feature, plus it will be able to download directly to the player, which is cool.
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I Might go with the 30gb ipod but the zune is prob what ill go with
and when the iphone comes out next year im def buying that

I had to go look up what a Zune was. I've never heard or seen these things before!
Honestly what is the difference and which one is better in your opinion??

The Zune could've been amazingly, super duper cool. Perhaps, perhaps sort of actually unseated a lot of the iPod's market share. And while it will still rock a lot when hacked, hacking isn't cool (I kind of want it to work cool out of the box). I don't entirely blame Microsoft for this, though. I mean, if they had released unfiltered Wi-fi, then the RIAA would've been friggin' livid* - and lest we forget, Microsoft has a hell of a lot of money to sue for.

Overall, I'd probably still buy iPod, but for some select people, the Zune might actually be a viable choice. It's a real shame committees sucked the life out of what could've been an actual contestant to the iPod (let's face it, barely anything else came close). Goes to show, though.

* You walk down the street and automatically download people's music collections. Untraceable P2P, eat your heart out. You can see why it wasn't unbridled.

girlEcho, basically Zune's Microsoft's idea of an iPod killer.

And basically, it's failed miserably.
Go with the iPod--the Zune's got all its options crippled and is only useful if you plan on hacking it to hell and back.

I didn't even mention the insanity of not working with WMP11 and all that. I don't know what Microsoft are thinking. Probably braindead.

My iPod is slowly dying (I should really try to not drop it anymore)

I was going to get a Zune only if and only if:

1) It sounded better than the iPod (the iPod sounds like crap)
2) I didn't need any crappy proprietary software, and a good way of loading music

But now it seems like I'll just have to not have music on the go. Big deal if I can't listen to it everywhere.

Originally Posted by MSG

1) It sounded better than the iPod (the iPod sounds like crap)
2) I didn't need any crappy proprietary software, and a good way of loading music[/b]

You think iPod sounds like crap? Really? I didn't notice any crapiness. I have an iPod Mini with the iPod Nano v2 earplugs and it might just be my non-critical ears, but I don't really notice anything.

And don't forget you don't have to use iTunes. There's always alternatives like ephPod.

Zune -

Not because I have anything against Apple but I have Zune for Obvious reasons. Sometimes you just gotta get your fingures a little dirty. A little known invisible force awaits those.

*remember that song? I gotta get mine.. You gotta get yours..*

iPod please.

The Zune has good potential, but they messed up on a few things, so I'm gonna go with iPod, mostly because of the design, it's easy to use, and iTunes.

I'm probably going to be getting rid of my iPod soon, the reason being iTunes

I fucking hate that shitty bloated software

I will rape Steve Jobs with my mind until he fixes iTunes from being less gay

I have an ipod (nano)
but want a Zune.
It looks cool, large screen, videos, internet (free music sharing??)

No, not free. Read the rest of the topic--it's totally crippled. The screen, admittedly, is good--though note that it isn't a higher resolution, only higher size. iPod's supposed to be releasing a larger screen later, which is probably a good move, since everybody's tired of squinting to make out a movie on that tiny little screen.
As for videos, iPods can play videos--not the nano, but the equivalent to the Zune, the default iPod, is just as capable.

also, FYI, songs you download from itunes store only play on ipods, and songs you download from the zune store (forget what it's called) only play on the zune. that means if you have an extensive collection of music downloaded from itunes, getting a zune just isn't very smart

Of course, you can always use HYMN to unlock your iTunes store purchases, and there's ways to unlock Zune store purchases, too. Only problem is they're time-consuming. iTunes has an older format, so there's better ways to crack it, but in the case of Zune store downloads, the converting process is at 1x speed. (At least the only way I know of doing it--which is playing the song while directly reading the audio output and recording it to an mp3.)

Yet another reason not to buy music online.