Thread: "Lucid Dreaming is bad for you"

Originally Posted by Waterknight

LOL mzzkc I dont see where you got that quote from but reading it made me laugh so much. LDing not being safe? All young children up to about the age of six from what I understand have lucid dreams quite often. Saying that LDing is addictive is like saying that reading a book is addictive. Oh and then saying I dont just swallow everything tells me about something. when before it I havent actually studdied it but Ive got from other people! Haha. Oh and 90% of LDers do it cuz of inception. Lets go through and check the joined date of all the members here I guarentee that less than 35% will be after the release of inception. (not me but I have never seeen it anyways and I have been LDing long before finding this site).

I dont see how a naturally occuring phenomonon within a human mind can be bad....

this is what i say to the guy who wrote Mzzck's quote: . you are 100% absolutely no doubt about it correct about that WaterKnight. it's hilarious that they would say that they were wrong... what a moron lol.

Im not saying there are absolutely no bad parts of it just they are insignificant if you are a person of sound mind.

I think it's like with anything else, to much, or using it as a way of escaping from your physical life is/could be bad for you (there are exceptions of course).

Some people, scientist people, believe dreaming is a way for your sub-concious mind to deal with things or emotional events that happen when you're awake.
The mind makes dreams based upon what problems it needs to deal with.
According to this, I would think that braking free of the natural path or dream, is like robbing your mind of the tool it needs to stay healthy.
So in theory, doing it to much/robbing yourself of natural dreams, could harm your mind and be damaging to your mental health.

When talking about Dreaming, you can't draw any conclusions. The topic itself is widely disucussed and debated when it come to why we dream, what dreams are, are we humans the only ones that dream ect.
Personally, I believe that keeping your mind open is very important. There are a lot of things we don't know or understand.. or rather, extremly few things we actually do understand.
There's a difference between having your own oppinion and being completely arrogant.

well you could be right about it possibly being bad but there are people who lucid dreams are "regular dreams" they never dream without being aware that its a dream yet they are perfectly normal in waking life. Is that unhealthy for them?

Well, I'll admit that the line between dream and reality has gotten a little blurred from time to time for me, but I think I just read too much Descartes. Generally, I just follow the rules (or lack thereof) of wherever I am and go with it, as both dream and reality are enjoyable. That said, I know all the usual religious arguments. I think my mother's favorite is to be careful, because this leaves you wide open for demon possession. But by her logic so does D&D, yoga, herbal medicine, and philosophical study. I should be a demonic tenement by now.

You know, just repeating that made me feel my IQ drop a bit... ouchie. No, I don't think it's dangerous until you decide that this reality is false and pull a Mal Cobb. If you hit that point, though, you had problems that had nothing to do with dreaming.

Now what are those religious arguments? I havent heard of them really. One of my friends said he thought LDing was evil but then i explained it to him and he was like oh i was thinking of astral projection

Originally Posted by RealShift

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Some people, scientist people, believe dreaming is a way for your sub-concious mind to deal with things or emotional events that happen when you're awake.
The mind makes dreams based upon what problems it needs to deal with.
According to this, I would think that braking free of the natural path or dream, is like robbing your mind of the tool it needs to stay healthy.
So in theory, doing it to much/robbing yourself of natural dreams, could harm your mind and be damaging to your mental health.
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I don't think that's necessarily true. Non-lucid dreams are simply dreams in which you are unaware of the reality of your environment. Your mind doesn't intentionally keep you unaware of the fact that you're dreaming; I believe that your waking state of being unaware is what causes this. If you don't agree with me, then try being more aware in your life, and tell me how that affects the awareness in your dreams. Better yet, think of reality checks: their sole purpose is to easily make us aware of our dream environment (given this is by chance, but there's nothing saying that we couldn't be more aware of our environment aside from just reality checking every now and then). Also, if it was necessary that we are unaware in our dreams, then I don't believe it would be possible to raise our awareness inside of a dream in the first place.
Now, it's true that some scientists claim that being unaware in dreams is what keeps our mind organized, but that's just a theory. To be fair, I haven't looked into that possibility much, but I've given some good counter-arguments that suggest otherwise.

Does anybody here know of anyone in person who has had control over most of their dreams since they were born? I'd put money that they're just as sane and mentally sound as the rest of us. In fact, I'd put money that some of those people are registered on this very forum.

Originally Posted by Cmndr

if you are not a doctor, do not make claims you are unable to back without EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.

I'm gonna write this real big, cause it's important, mmkay?

notice how he just refuted his ENTIRE argument

EOS

I'm half tempted to ask where that utter debauchery took place so I can flame the living hell out of it. However, no matter how satisfying it may seem on the surface, I would really only be wasting my time.

Originally Posted by MindGames

In fact, I'd put money that some of those people are registered on this very forum.

As a matter of fact, they are.

Don't yell at me if I am wrong but I think I have heard that we get most of our rest during deep sleep and not during REM? If that is the case then even if being lucid did effect your rest in REM it wouldn't even make much of a diffence anyways. If its not deep sleep then what part of sleep do we get the most rest. I can't quite remember and don't have the time to look it up now.

I lucid dream once a week, that's enough to make me the crazy person I am. Ask anyone who knows me. I blame it on the dreams