Thread: Weaning off the daydreaming

I try to just chill and not worry about what I am thinking about. How to "just chill"? I don't know. Maybe I learned it by meditating.

daydreaming is just visualization. i recommend it highly. Here is something from sivason
http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-yoga...-training.html

it outlines a lot of things it can be used for. I recommend the whole dream yoga class for everyone forever.

When LDing, you want to go with the flow of things that are amazing at.

I think daydreaming could help with lucid dreaming, I think there are some daydream based lucid dream techniques out there.

I agree with Sensei and appdirect. If you have visualisation skills, work with it! I used to do the same as you going to sleep, like you decided I was getting too old for that... and my ability to visualise took a nose-dive. A couple of years later I found LDing and wished that I'd held on to that ability. MILD, VILD, there are many techniques that will come more easily to you than other LDers.

Thank you everyone for your comments.

I do practice visualization techniques, and I still appreciate them too much to let them go. I was more especially referring to the 1-dimensional stories I make, which too often go on torturous masochist paths which is the opposite of "just chilling", lol. Maybe, instead of abandoning my daydreaming practice, I just need to allow it to mature, (as I have actually, with intricate mental temples and such).

So thank you for your responses because it has motivated me to continue on that path.

This is really interesting, because I have a similar “problem” (assuming that it is actually a problem). For some reason, I also have certain types of daydreams (that usually are always the same overall theme) while going to sleep, and I just can't seem to bring myself to let them go because I enjoy them too much even though they're often rather repetitious. And while I can usually suspend this type of daydreaming activity during the day to focus on other things when needed, I just can't seem to do that when I get in bed. I'm not sure why.

My only concern is that I feel it tends to get in the way of lucidity/intention/meditation-types of thoughts or what have you that I'm trying to have, and occasionally, actually distracts me enough that it makes it difficult to get to sleep in the first place. One idea I had was to try to work these thoughts into the daydream plot, even if in a subtle way, but it seems to be tricky for some reason (and I suspect the nature of this daydreaming makes it rather challenging for me to stay very self-aware/lucid). This is something I want to try practicing, though, whenever I can manage to remember.

Yes, that's the same for me. By "working these thoughts into the daydream plot", do you mean: reminding yourself that you are in a "daydream" and that you intend to transition into sleep and later into dream where you intend to become lucid? And the such?

This might be useful: http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...technique.html

Originally Posted by Occipitalred

Yes, that's the same for me. By "working these thoughts into the daydream plot", do you mean: reminding yourself that you are in a "daydream" and that you intend to transition into sleep and later into dream where you intend to become lucid? And the such?

Yeah, pretty much. It makes sense, as that's also what I try to remember to do during as much of my waking-life time as possible. I seem to feel an odd bit of resistance toward doing it during these daydreams, though, that I can't quite place my finger on. It's as if I really just want to place my undivided attention on the daydreams and nothing else. Or perhaps the daydreams are simply that immersive.

But, perhaps, if I could practice remembering to just take some very brief pauses every couple of minutes or so for self-awareness before continuing the daydream, it might still help. In fact, now that I think of it, developing an ability to periodically remember to do that in the midst of deep thinking/daydreaming might well help provoke DILDs, too. Just sort of thinking out loud here.

Originally Posted by dolphin

This might be useful: http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...technique.html

Thanks for that link. Funny enough, my browser claims I've been there before, though I don't immediately recognize it. Looks like it might be worth a (re?)read!