Thread: Past Lives and Lucid dreams?

I beleive in past lives because I seem to feel that this life is just another day for me I dont know why but I feel like Ive lived forever. Also sometimes I have visions that seem to have happened before I was born in another life. They come well Im awake and in dreams but they are not places or events but instead seem to come as an emotion or feeling and then after a few of them I can peice together possible memories. I keep remembering this building or maybe its a helocopter I cant tell. But I can tell it has something to do with war. But I cant explain most of my visions they can not easily be explained with words.

i think i'm on my first life, so its hard to say for sure, but maybe.....

IMO past lives are the root of empathy. You can envision how another person feels because, quite likely, you've been there before.

good to know

I just checked out a book called "20 cases suggestive of reincarnation." Some of the facts in that book are mindboggling. What a child can recall. How all the facts make sense. The book was completely scientifical, and extremely detailed. I'm starting to believe in reincarnation now. As for myself, It seems I can't recall any past life experiences.

I'm not totally sure on what i believe, but i do think it is a strong possibility.

I really like Mickeys_Elbow take on it, it makes sense to me.

Sometimes when i've seen myself in dreams lucid and non lucid and i do not look like myself i have wondered if it has been my physical image in past lives?

Peace Sensi.

mickeys elbow... so whats with sociopaths? not that many lives before?

I can not speak for Mickeys_Elbow but i took his comment in the way that when you have empathy you can feel compassion for a person that maybe in a situation that you would not find yourself in this time around the block. You could have been in a similar situation before tho so even tho you may not be that way in this life you do not judge them as who knows where your soul has been.

Sociopaths do not feel empathy huh? Is that what you are getting at? Hmmm, I have to ponder that one......

Peace Sensi

i have to think about the thing on psychos

them not feeling empathy.....could be the fact they haven't lived many lives...
or it could be that the torment form past lifes causes the essences to warp if placed in a similar situation

(even if they come from happy homes it my trigger something in there memory to bring back twisted veiws of the present)

as for other things i remember someone saying something to me about there brother
and how her brother and mother were walking and her brother wouldn't move off the corner just as the mother bent down to ask the son what the matter was he said "Car" just then... a car came whipping around the corner.....
the car would have killed her...she asked him how he knew about the car.....
he said "that is how my other mommy died....."

keep in mind the kid is like 3 at this time......
that story still freaks me out.....

Thats a similar thing that happened on a BBC television series called "Sea of Souls" and its basically the idea that perhaps the reason child prodigies are so intelligent because they learnt it all before and can recall it in there next incarnation. For example, did Mozart know how to write grand symphonies at the age of three because he'd already had perhaps 50 years of piano skill in his past life?

I've had dreams before where I've been not myself, but someone different and I've interacted with people and places I'm not sure are real or just fabricated. I've often not gone lucid, but accepted being someone else for that dream and just going along with it/ not realising I'm anyone else. Its not happened very often, but I've remembered a few times now its been mentioned.

Hi btw, I'm a newbie here. Had to be announced before the post was over lol

Hi yeah Newb!

awe look at you so cute and smart
i'll hug you and hold you and love you for ever!

lol
Sifr welcome to the crew ...and my post as well



But i was wondering if being lucid you could recall past lives with a little pratice.....
it makes me wonder and want to try
i've had dream that are memories but that's after ...a certain thing i do......
i'm tempted to try but fear is stopping me...
i wonder why?

I doubt you can recall past lives in dreams, but it's possible.

There is a great deal of anecdotal evidence for past lives that seems pretty suggestive that at least something is going on. Many times people will recall events in people's lives that they had no way of knowing about, and then it turns out that they are able to find a diary or something that confirms that all of these are basically true. They are able to pass lie detector tests to prove they had no prior knowledge of this person.

I think there's a strong possibility that something resemblings past lives exists.

Hi, Past lives maybe, but I don't think there would be a way to recall it, thoughts are strands of chemicals, they decompose along with the body, there is no way (no scientificly proven) way for the thoughts of one who's deceased to be placed in a newborn's mind. So I dont know, you can take the route of science, or the route of philiosophy. There are a lot of facts to consider when dealing with this topic.

but spirits are energys aren't they....
concidering the brain is made of enegry all are memories are stored in are minds and electroid
isn't it more than possible the spirit is this energry......
and you could tap into it and recall it...
now i've got my self interested....
gonna co look up more info

I don't think there's much evidence as to how it's done, and there really is no explanation that lines up with current scientific schools of thought, which is probably why it isn't more widely accepted. There is much evidence, though, suggesting that this phenomenon really does exist.

I consider it a possibliity. Most humans deny anything that they see as "semi-supernatural". I have been told I was a great philosopher in the 800's many times by people who believe it. I have my doubts, but unless I know it for a fact that it is in no way possible true I have to admit it can exist beyond my knowledge. I actually hope it does really exist. I would like to know if I have lead a more consistent life than this.

I say things exist if I cannot prove them wrong not by if I cannot prove them right.

I believe in past lives because I have seen others', some through lucid dreams. I am a bit anxious but eager to see my own...

I think it is possible, but in a compicated way. I dont want to give opinion because it envolves religion and is a hard subject to discuss. I do know that I have seen my entire life before. There are times when I see a image and remember seeing it before. I have also been able to see myself in a third person view looking into the mirror. That actually scared me seeing myself that way. Maybe it is memories of others that we are seeing. The brain gives off frequencies that we do not hear. Well we do not hear these frequencies with our brains, but our brains do. I believe this is a form of telepathy.

Originally posted by sephiroth clock
mickeys elbow... so whats with sociopaths? not that many lives before?

Just because they feel doesn't mean that they have to listen. People have the ability to turn their emotions off, if you don't believe me just try it. Many people do this just to get through their day. You can also feel emotions that aren't really there, i.e. if I wanted to I could fall helplessly in love with a yogurt pot (hehe kaniaz, that still cracks me up) only to later turn it off and eat it. Emotions are completely under your control, you just have to try and maybe practice a little... or a lot.


I think I may have posted something similar to this in another topic, but im unsure... but anyway.
The way I look at it is that the reality we have come to know works in cycles; of things getting destroyed, their matter reforming, and then rebirth. This happens with all matter in the universe. Life is a very complex form of matter and the consciousness that it has developed is also part of the cycle. Even though there is no proven tie between consciousness and matter, they both coexist simultaneously in the same organisms, and in the same reality, cycling through in the same systems over and over. So, in my mind, it makes perfect sense that I WILL live again.

I was medtating on having a spiritual dream, and the same night I got one! it was a very vivid dream, more than any other dreams in my life. I had a dream about me, as a slave, helping the Mayans / Aztecs to build a temple. When I picked up a stone to build the temple, I started to cry. It felt so very familiar like I did that before many years ago, and I was feeling a higher energy around me. I cried more because it was overwhelming and because of this I woke up, with tears still in my eyes. I'd like to beleive it was real. btw, when did the aztecs or mayans disappear?

The didn't completely disappear they spread out and dispanded........(at least according to history)
they abandon there city's after the spanish came and burned everything they had....belief wise in the name of chirst......
what can you do......

hmm Past lives and Lucid dreams I've beening trying to recall through meditation but no luck so far

if i could do it through lucid dreaming i could see things from all aspects it's a really entreging idea
but i have to recall a large enough memories to the front lines in order to try it in the dream.....but i'm pondering another way to do this....
that seems much more difficult and harder to prove....


i'm not sure
i want an expert to talk to me
if your interested PM

I've been told various things about my supposed past lives but not too sure what to believe. I do think if it is possible tho you could carry over traits and abilities with you into the next life, both positive and negative I guess.

I kinda remembered that the Dalai Lama has to recall things from past lives to prove his reincarnation so i found this if anyone is interested?

The story of the Dalai Lama is possibly the most famous example of children's past life memory. Here is the true story of how the present Dalai Lama was located and positively identified based on his ability, as a very young child, to remember details from his past life.
When the Thirteenth Dalai Lama died in 1933, the senior lamas looked for signs as to where his next incarnation might be found. Each of the Dalai Lamas, over many centuries since the birth of the first in 1351 AD, followed the same line—each one was an incarnation of the last, retaining the spiritual wisdom acquired over many lifetimes.
In the spring of 1935, Tibet's Regent, himself a senior lama, journeyed to the sacred lake of Lhamoi Lhatso in southern Tibet to seek a vision. Looking into this oval-shaped lake, which lay in a basin at 17,000 feet surrounded by snow-covered peaks, Reting Rinpoche had a vision. As he stared into the crystalline waters, he saw three letters from the Tibetan alphabet: Ah, Ka and Ma, floating before him. Then he clearly saw the image of a three-storied monastery with a gold and jade roof. A path led down the hill from the monastery to a house roofed with turquoise tiles and a brown and white spotted dog in the courtyard. After Reting Rinpoche saw this vision, he dreamed of the same house with a turquoise roof, but this time he saw oddly shaped gutter pipes along the roof and a small boy standing in the yard. He was sure that the letter Ah he saw in the vision pertained to Amdo, a province in the east, so a search party was dispatched to that area.
One of the search parties, under the direction of Kewtsang Rinpoche, a high lama of Sera Monastery, approached the Kumbum monastery in Amdo. They saw its temples roofed in jade and gold, just like in the vision. The search party combed the area, looking for extraordinary children. They heard of one boy in Takster, a two-day's journey from Amdo.
So, in the winter of 1937 Kewtsang Rinpoche, accompanied by a government official named Lobsang Tsewant and two attendants, set out for Takster. To avoid detection, they disguised themselves as merchants on a business trip. To further conceal their identities Kewtsang Rinpoche, the lama, dressed himself in an old sheepskin and played the role of a servant and Lobsang Tsewang, the government official, acted as the leader of the group. They approached the house of a two-year-old boy, Lhamo Dhondrub. They were greeted by the barking of a brown and white spotted mastiff chained to the entranceway.
They identified themselves as traders and asked if they could use the family's kitchen for tea, which is a common practice in Tibet. Passing through the courtyard of the house, Kewtsang Rinpoche noticed the turquoise tiles on the roof of the house and unusual guttering made from gnarled juniper. Once in the kitchen, he was approached by little Lhamo Dhondrub. The boy climbed into Kewtsang Rinpoche's lap and began playing with rosary beads that hung around the visitor's neck, which had belonged to the 13th Dalai Lama. Suddenly, the boy became agitated and demanded that he be given the beads immediately, claiming that they belonged to him. Kewtsang Rinpoche told the boy, "I'll give it to you if you can guess who I am." Matter-of-factly, the boy replied, "You are a lama of Sera." The boy then addressed Lobsang Tsewang by his proper name and went on to identify the others in the party as being from the Sera monastery as well (at the time there were thousands of monastaries in Tibet). Not only were his identifications correct, but this two-year-old addressed the men in the proper dialect of Central Tibet, a dialect unknown in his district.
When the visitors were preparing to leave in the morning, Lhamo Dhondrub was in tears, begging them to take him along. They managed to calm him down, promising to return.
They did return shortly, this time to administer tests to see if this boy was indeed the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama. The monks offered gifts to the family and asked to be left alone with Lhamo Dhondrub. As night fell, they adjourned to the master bedroom at the center of the house, placed a series of articles on a low table. Some of these articles had belonged to the 13th Dalai Lama, the others were carefully crafted duplicates. The objects included the Dalai Lama’s spectacles, silver pencil and eating bowl, as well as four items which the Oracle of Samye had ordered this delegation to bring with it. They were a black rosary, a yellow rosary, two walking sticks, and a small ivory hand drum used in religious devotions.
Entering the bedroom, Lhamo Dhondrub was invited forward by Kewtsang Rinpoche, who sat with three officials on either side of the table. In his hand Kewtsang Rinpoche held the black rosary to which the boy had been drawn on the previous visit; in the other hand he held a perfect duplicate. Asked to choose one, the child took the correct rosary without hesitating and placed it around his neck, a feat he repeated with the yellow rosary a few moments later. Next, they presented him with the walking sticks. At first Lhamo Dhondrub pulled gently at the wrong stick, but then let it go and took the correct one, happily holding it in front of him like a giant stave. This was considered particularly significant since the "wrong" stick had actually been used briefly by the Dalai Lama before he gave it to a friend. The final items, the drums, remained. The false drum was beautifully decorated with floral brocade; the genuine one was less inviting. Once more Lhamo Dhondrub took the correct object, twisting the drum quickly back and forth in his right hand so that it beat in the manner of tantric ritual.
Next, the boy was examined for eight distinctive bodily marks of the Dalai Lama: large ears, long eyes, eyebrows curving up at the ends, streaks on the legs, and a mark in the shape of a conch shell on the palm of one hand. They gently examined the boy, and after finding three of the marks, the examiners were so overcome with joy, that their eyes filled with tears. There was no doubt that the 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet was sitting before them in the body of a two and a half-year-old child. And so, the prophecy was fulfilled: the letters in the vision stood for the names of the neighboring monastery, and the distinctive images of the spotted dog, the tiles, and the gutters, were for all to see.
But when the Moslem warlord of northwestern China heard of the selection of the child, he demanded an exorbitant ransom before he would let the child by taken from the district. After he was paid, he demanded even more money and some valuable religious artifacts. Leaving them with no choice, the Tibetans raised the money and the ransom was paid. After months of waiting, the prospective Dalai Lama and his family set out on a three-month journey to Lhasa, the capital of Tibet. Lhamo Dhondrub rode with his six-year-old brother on a small palanquin suspended on poles between two mules. All along the way he was greeted by offerings and afforded the respect accorded to a great teacher and leader.
When they were within a few miles of Lhasa, they were greeted by a torch-bearing procession which led them to an encampment. At its center was an enormous yellow satin tent, canopied in blue and white. This tent, known as the Great Peacock, had been used over the centuries solely to greet each infant reincarnation of the Dalai Lama upon his return home.
During the next two days, the young Lhamo Dhondrub sat on a tall throne in the Great Peacock and individually blessed 70,000 monks and lay people who had gathered to welcome him.
On the morning of October 8, 1939, a procession of sixteen noblemen clad in green satin and red-tasseled hats carried a gold palanquin, in which sat the little boy. A procession of musicians, the State Astrologer, the Dalai Lama's family, cabinet members, the Regent, and Prime Minister, accompanied the boy to the palace. Thousands lined the route, waving banners on tall poles.
Once Lhamo Dhondrub was ushered into his predecessor's chambers in the palace, he pointed to a small box and declared, "My teeth are in there." Opening the case, the attendants were astonished to find a set of the former Dalai Lama's dentures.
Within weeks, four-year-old Lhamo Dhondrub, or Tenzin Gyatso as he is now called, was installed on the Lion Throne as the supreme temporal and spiritual ruler of Tibet. This is the same Dalai Lama who today is the spiritual leader of Tibetans and all Buddhists, and who travels around the world to spread Buddhist ideas and tell of the exiling of Tibetan Buddhists by the invading Chinese.

Peace Sensi.

wow
that sorta smacks everything my chirstian aunt believes in right in the face........

though i do enjoy the buddist religion i find it very interesting.....

Yeah i do not follow any organized religion. I do find something’s they all have to offer interesting but with out 100% belief i can not follow so i do not. I just take bits and pieces from everywhere then it is catered to me.

Peace Sensi.