Dream cartography. Is it so powerful?

**Purebred** · 03-28-2011 03:01 PM

I've found realy nice book. It's about Lucid Dreaming and it's main method to attain lucidity is dream cartography.

P.S. Authors of this book are so called "Dream Hackers" and they always rely on Carlos Castaneda. (I googled a lot and I found out that Carlos is famous for his "hands" method, but they don't even mention it in a book)

So, according to them, cartography is realy strong method while trying to achieve LD. They explain, that drawing the map of your dream will result in sudden "Enlightment", sudden remembering of HUGE AMOUNT OF dreams. Than almost your every dream will become Lucid Dream, because you will be well aware of differences between dreaming and waking worlds (places you visit, your senses, etc.)

I have DJ with about 100 dreams (A lot of them are described realy poorly, like, only dialogs, events and no enviroment description). I started drawing my map and it became quite big. I was shocked how every dream is related to another and that I always take same traveling routes from place to place. My map hangs on my wall and whenever I look at him I remember all of the recorded dreams in an instant. I realy hope that I will feel that "enlightment".

So, guys, after reading a bunch of text... What do you think about this cartography thing?

**Angusaurus** · 03-28-2011 03:23 PM

Sounds interesting.
Could you give the name of the book?
Thanks

**Purebred** · 03-28-2011 04:02 PM

I bet it's not translated in english. I live in Lithuania and this book is in Russian language. ;D

**zebrah** · 03-28-2011 05:48 PM

I have never heard of this before. If anyone has more info please post it. I'm very curious to know if this works.

**Wabajack** · 03-28-2011 05:52 PM

Sounds cool!, i wounder if actually creating your dream map would be better tho like with a 3D animator program or a game like Garrys mod. Minecraft do u think that would work the same way?

**AD0123** · 03-28-2011 06:00 PM

so do you draw a map like the map of the world with countries and territories? or just try to draw a bunch of the landscapes that your dreams are in?

**Matte87** · 03-28-2011 07:44 PM

Hmm... Exactly how would this map be constructed? Different islands with all kinds of dream themes, or different words and emotions which will be in circles that overlap eachother? Please draw a picture

**Vertebrate** · 03-28-2011 07:46 PM

Purebred, what do you mean when you say map of your dreams. Do you mean you physically draw a map of locations in your dreams? Looking at the few dreams I have recorded that I remembered locations in, most of them were discontinuous. The landscape changed, or the architecture was spatially impossible.

If you were willing to share a picture of your "dream map" that would be great!

Edit: http://magic-su.net/eng/firstgate/ Is this what you were talking about?

**zebrah** · 03-28-2011 08:13 PM

You guys might find http://www.dreamviews.com/f11/practi...ography-71018/ interesting.

This guy has writing a lengthy tutorial on dream cartography.

**Hysteric** · 03-28-2011 08:32 PM

as i see it, i would draw events that occure in my dreams and draw lines beetwen them how they are connected. didn't actualy think of drawing places... i don't see how that is in any way powerfull sence events effect you more then places you know...

**Artelis** · 03-28-2011 09:12 PM

This is a cool idea. I like the idea of trying to make a map of an entirely dynamic terrain.

Also zebrah is a fag.

**Purebred** · 03-28-2011 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Vertebrate

Purebred, what do you mean when you say map of your dreams. Do you mean you physically draw a map of locations in your dreams? Looking at the few dreams I have recorded that I remembered locations in, most of them were discontinuous. The landscape changed, or the architecture was spatially impossible.

If you were willing to share a picture of your "dream map" that would be great!

Edit: How-to: Dream Mapping | Magic of Free Mind Is this what you were talking about?

I have a lot big pieces of paper glued together with buildings, forests, roads, other places drawn all over them. Thanks to your link I've found that nice software for dream map creation. I have to admit, I don't understand a thing in it xD and as I read a little bit of information given I didn't understand anything either. I hope I will get it when I will be fully rested. Btw, Mr. Izrigi is one of the book's author.

**Artelis** · 03-28-2011 10:13 PM

I think a big dry erase board would be a good investment for this sort of thing.

**Purebred** · 03-28-2011 10:27 PM

Yeah. Have to admit that, because that kind of software doesn't look very attracting.

**Artelis** · 03-28-2011 10:58 PM

can you imagine having an epic map drawn across several dry erase boards in your place and then one day someone just came and erased it all?! FFFFUUUUUUUU

**Queen Zukin** · 03-28-2011 11:03 PM

I did this once. It's pretty fun until you've been mapping dream after dream for a couple hours.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...aphy2001-1.jpg

I'm planning on starting a new one though, since I can't edit that old one anymore. It's going to be bigger.

I would love to read that book, by the way (time to learn Russian).

**Purebred** · 03-28-2011 11:23 PM

I don't speak Russian too. It's translated into Lithuanian. Pretty nice map you've got there. Mine is so messed up, but it's good as long as you understand something.

**siuol** · 03-29-2011 01:27 AM

i found this out a long time ago, and wrote a thread on it, but i didnt know much about it so didnt take it further, just an observation. basicly in my thread i talked about how i noticed my dreams took place in similar settings, and i knew where each place was in relation to eachother, and by remembering some places i would remember the places closer to them, and consequently i would remember a ton of dreams i had forgoten. except in my thread i made it longer and more confusing than it had to be, should work on that lol. but anyway, how does this help become lucid, i guess it can be a dream sign but im not sure how well it would work, if anyone finds out tell me.

**zebrah** · 03-29-2011 07:29 AM

I mapped my dream from today so we shall see if it has any effect. It really made me realize how different my dream world is from the waking world. I'll post back in the morning.

Also KEEP IT CIVIL AND ON TOPIC IN HERE.

**Purebred** · 03-29-2011 08:29 AM

Yes, Like I said, I was shocked too. Roades, places, forests, they always appear in the same place, but in the different one cmparing to real life.

**Soulnote** · 03-29-2011 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Queen Zukin

I did this once. It's pretty fun until you've been mapping dream after dream for a couple hours.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...aphy2001-1.jpg

I'm planning on starting a new one though, since I can't edit that old one anymore. It's going to be bigger.

I would love to read that book, by the way (time to learn Russian).

THAT WAS ONE DREAM?!?!

I'd already known you were good, but to be able to remember that is REALLY impressive.

**Queen Zukin** · 03-29-2011 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Soulnote

THAT WAS ONE DREAM?!?!

I'd already known you were good, but to be able to remember that is REALLY impressive.

No...that was many many dreams mapped together.

**Soulnote** · 03-29-2011 03:36 PM

Oh, ewll either way, to be able to map them is impressive, my dreams seem too random in location to map, but i'll try anyway. Thank you and the person who made this thread for the idea.

**MischiefManaged** · 03-29-2011 03:45 PM

Queen Zukin, did it help you in any way? Attaining lucidity, remembering old dreams or improving dream recall?

I tried to make a map few times before, but I'm not patient enough, I get irritated every time something doesn't coincide. And places that are supposed to stay always change, so I don't know where to put them...I know it's supposed to be like that and it should take some time until some connections appear and it looks like an actual map...I need more patience

**Kaira** · 03-29-2011 08:24 PM

Hmmm... I might try this. I already know a few recuring places in my dreams and where some of them connect to. Actually, most of the places I go to are an altered version of my own city or altered version of fictional places. Many common things often happen in certain areas as well which sometimes helps me gain lucidity. Maybe if I draw a map I'll be even more likely to notice when I'm dreaming.