Thread: If you dont understand point of meditation try this.

I think that simple routine, as written, ought to be moved to the "Attaining Lucidity" and/or the DVA Academy forums, and perhaps be included in the beginning of all WILD tutorials.

Thank you for posting, Seltiez, and I hope this thread gets some attention -- and that people try it out.

This is called "Zhine", a common practice for dream yogi.

The object/image you choose to observe should be at eye level and a few feet away from you. Feel like your focusing your mind through your eyes into the object, putting force behind it. Do not blink, or at least minimize it. "The purpose is to develop stability during perception of external objects, and eventually, objects in dream."-Tenzin Rinpoche

Eventually you will pass into "natural zhine", where your awareness rests on the object without needing to be held there, the mind is calm, thoughts don't disrupt your contemplation of the object. Now focus your mind on expansive empty space, like the night sky, the middle of your room, etc. Instead of keeping focused on one point in space, let your mind, while remaining in strong presence, to be diffuse.

According to Tenzin Rinpoche, the three obstacles are agitation, drowsiness, and laxity. You have to really focus and be alert, clear, engaged. Tis' very important.

Best to do this twice a day at least, it's like building muscles, consistent repetition is required.

I've always wondered how to actually meditate - tutorials never helped me. I'll be sure to give this method a try. Thanks for sharing!

Originally Posted by Sageous

I think that simple routine, as written, ought to be moved to the "Attaining Lucidity" and/or the DVA Academy forums, and perhaps be included in the beginning of all WILD tutorials.

Thank you for posting, Seltiez, and I hope this thread gets some attention -- and that people try it out.

This isn't exactly aimed at attaining lucidity.

Or it is. But it's not. But it is...

This is confusing.

^^ But it is!

... aimed at lucidity, that is.

Maybe it was not inititially intended to do so, and it certainly stands alone, but I think your exercise/lesson would be very helpful to LD'ers, especially novices looking for a way to work on focus, or on clearing their mind before, say, setting intentions for a MILD or lying down for a WILD.

Not only that, but if they understand what meditation is, and in such clear terms, when it comes time to incorporate meditation into their work, then dreamers will better know what they are doing, or at least what they are expected to do; and, since WILD is essentially a form of meditation if you look at it just right, that bit of understanding would be most helpful.

Originally Posted by SinisterDezz

This isn't exactly aimed at attaining lucidity.

Or it is. But it's not. But it is...

This is confusing.

Well you can try it and see. Habit of meditation could help you in wild and keep your mind focused and on doing the basic reality checks and self awareness. Im also not sure if it is for attaining lucidity but you kind of need silent focus when trying to wild and whats better way than meditation which increases focus instantly.