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      Lucid Dream through will (theory)

      If I am not that crazy a good time ago I did post a thread about this and how I was testing it. Well in short I had very few short lucid dream until now, but it wasn't a waste of days and time. It's going to be a bit long thread so if you don't like wall texts if better to leave I guess, specially because it's mostly a theory of mine ( and I don't think I am the unique who thought about this ). Maybe you guys can help me out a bit or who knows I can get to help someone with thread.

      \/ Small intro and personal experience \/

      Getting LD through willpower. I have been testing this without keeping dream journal to see if it was possible to LD like this, it really isn't easy but at the same time I also confirmed to myself that remembering the dreams of each day actually REALLY help dream memory ( even if you don't keep a dream journal as long you can remember at least 1 dream entirely for days ). I am also that kind of lazy person, I also can't concentrate myself on such topics for too long ( after a time I begin to think on other random topics and obviously lose concentration ) but I think I have been able to make it easier to dream with some news "steps" I took after thinking on how to make myself dream or get lucid. I don't really frequent too much dreamviews ( but used to for a few weeks last year ) and I still don't know what is my dream sign until now ( lol ). So, what I have been trying lately ...

      \/ Getting to dream and LD \/
      Past few months I have been an "observer", you know that feeling you know it's a dream yet somehow it makes you feel immersed in it and simply forget it's a dream? It's been like this. For me, it's a good sign that I can get to LD because I think it's some sort of half lucid ( and the usual LD would come from this type of dream ). But this isn't enough or at least wasn't for me, so this is what I did try after some thoughts on the topic:

      1 - Sleep before becoming entirely tired, in my opinion it does help you actually lucid dream because an exhausted mind would probably break a possible LD.
      2 - When going to sleep, get in a comfortable position ( obviously ) and start to use your mind ( with eyes closed ) a scenario or possible adventure that could happen in a dream. There is no need to force too much detail, you might actually not sleep for hours if you try forcing too much details. Now, why did this help me? I am pretty sure I did dream and remember what I dream on every day I did this. It wasn't the same thing I imagined before suddenly sleeping, but it seem to help at least in my case. Extra personal note: I only got to LD when looking to the "roof direction", I don't know why.

      These steps did help me have dreams every day, those "half lucid" ( or so I believe ) that I said. So yesterday I did these 2 steps but then I thought: "It's likely I am missing something that can make my brain notice that it's a dream", I created a third step:

      3 - Tell myself I am in "my world" or "dream" while doing step two, but not necessarily every time while imagining the scenario etc. Just a few times, step 2 and 3 I did without giving too much details so I could get to sleep slowly eventually. Today at about 8:22AM I awoke after a LD of about 10-15 minutes, my record I'd say as every LD would "break" in about 2 minutes.

      The Lucid Dream experience: It switched from a creepy zombie dream to suddenly an empty city ( suddenly I also had "vivid" vision ), I knew instantly I was lucid dreaming. I did walk through it, did some "super jumping" testing gravity or how it did work within my mind in a LD, it was rather easy. But the first time I said "for a dream it's very real " my vision begun to fade away as if to throw me away from the LD, as I did lost so many LD I simply ignored what I said and didn't panic but started to walk again, immediately my vision came to normal. I think that my brain tried to awake me when I told myself it was a dream, in the past I used to only have nightmares and would wake myself in every dream ( you may understand why ) ... so continuing I tried to "imagine" a body in my front to create someone, but I simply couldn't. Anyone know why? I can imagine right now a body form, but in the LD the image wouldn't simply appear. I tried to make a military looking person with a gun, it was quite fitting for the apocalyptic empty city. After a few minutes walking I did blink and I was in front of my house, but there were two cars I've never seen and 2 nude women ( ?? ) and this is where it ended ( thanks mr. Boner ).

      I think this was a quite fast result as on first try that I did step 3 I got a LD, but who knows if this will work for the next days. Another thing I forgot to say is I think we can create "barriers" not believing in ourselves which stop us from going LD or it even affect dream memory. But that's just my thoughts and I am not an expert. So, now that I am satisfied with testing I guess I will start a dream journal using that Awoken app for Android ( easier than carrying a notebook )to see how well it might affect. So, do you guys know anything else I might improve?
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      Will power develops intention which makes it easier to recall dream related memories during the dream which helps in becoming lucid.

      If you sleep with an exhausted mind, you fall asleep before you can develop strong intention. The longer it takes you to fall asleep, the better this technique works.

      You couldn't imagine the body in front of you because you were telling yourself "This is not working." You may find it easier to imagine them being behind you or somewhere other than in front of you.

      It looks like your on the right track to becoming lucid consistently. Start focusing more on your dream control.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
      You couldn't imagine the body in front of you because you were telling yourself "This is not working." You may find it easier to imagine them being behind you or somewhere other than in front of you.

      It looks like your on the right track to becoming lucid consistently. Start focusing more on your dream control.
      It's not like I was "meh this doesn't work", I did stood still and even did wave my hand as if trying to make the silhouette but for some reason it simply didn't appear not even a trace of a "mind image". For a weird reason I thought at that time that maybe I was already over-using my brain maintaining such a huge city. Today I will try those steps again, but when I wake up I will begin to write a dream journal ( if I don't forget to do so).

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