Thread: Nofap and lucid dreaming

I'm skeptical.

Are you sure this is worth it?

Does it count if I just get laid instead?

I have experienced an increase in vividness and lucidity rates when on longer streaks. Whether or not this is a placebo is unknown.. But either way, i'm better off on this road.

Originally Posted by sloth

I'm skeptical.

Are you sure this is worth it?

Does it count if I just get laid instead?

Mate it's more than worth it I promise you that and getting laid does not affect it at all so go nuts.

Originally Posted by DARKSYNTAX

I have experienced an increase in vividness and lucidity rates when on longer streaks. Whether or not this is a placebo is unknown.. But either way, i'm better off on this road.

The nofap road??what day are you currently on??

Originally Posted by Superdremer

The nofap road??what day are you currently on??

Currently at day 10. My best streak was 52. I'll make this one break that record.

I'm really confused as to how the faps can interfere with this stuff.
Or, maybe it is a placebo and it is working for you guys so I should just keep my mouth shut.

Could be a placebo. But if you guys feel like it's helping and aren't experiencing any large tradeoffs, I'd say go ahead!

but the opportunity cost....

Originally Posted by DARKSYNTAX

Currently at day 10. My best streak was 52. I'll make this one break that record.

Ahh my best is 28 days and sadly I lost it about two three days ago. I am now on day 2

Originally Posted by sloth

I'm really confused as to how the faps can interfere with this stuff.
Or, maybe it is a placebo and it is working for you guys so I should just keep my mouth shut.

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Originally Posted by Shabby

Could be a placebo. But if you guys feel like it's helping and aren't experiencing any large tradeoffs, I'd say go ahead!

Tradeoffs??

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yup dude i approve this, when i started nofap i got like 1 vivid dreams for 3 days in a row, hope you make it to the day 90

just remember folks...you're shooting those lucid dreams right out through your penis. Don't ejaculate your dreams away.

I'm on day 62. I'm currently not trying to get lucid that often ( only on weekends ), but here is something that has happened to me:

- Longer dreams. The dreams can last to full 45-60 minutes at times. I have only achieved such long dreams when actively trying to get lucid dreams.

- Some increase in awareness in dreams. Before my decision to get clean of the bad habit of fapping, I wouldn't get the slightest awareness into my dreams if I wasn't doing multiple RC's during the day. Now if I do only 15 to 20 ( I used to do 80+ each day to get at least some degree of lucidity), I might get to that " this might be a dream, but I decide not to do a reality check for some reason"-stage. If I do half (40) of what I used to do, I get lucid almost certainly.

- Falling asleep is a bit easier. If I used to fall asleep lets say 45 minutes later after going to bed, I now fall asleep in 30 minutes.

-Wet dreams. They take a bit of getting used to... but it's natural.

Nothing else has changed concerning dreams such as vividness, the "storyline" etc on my part. It could be a placebo, but I personally don't think so, because I'm not trying get the benefits I have received after stopping fapping. They kinda just happen, so I'd say it's definitely worth trying out at least. I'm not trying to stay clean for 90 days or 150 or so, I'm off for good!

hmm no fap challange...when i find faping i never stop, its its its... u know its hard to stop doing what you doing but well i could try to res my penis

you should try it, it has lots of benefits such as increased confidence and blablabla
the list goes on

yea probably its can increase confidence becouse after that thing i feel so bad

I never really had long streaks but it makes me having more vivid dreams.

You say no fapping or is it just no porn? If its porn thats ruining our brains then surley imagination is fine to use as a fapping tool? Iv gone a week so far i think and i didnt even notice this post till now and iv had some vivid dreams myself so it isnt a placebo effect for me.

That's a good question, I'd be interested in an answer.

Fapping is good for the brain as long as you don't overdo it, porn is not that great but let's say that you fap say a few times a week using imagination, would it still be bad?

I absolutely hate all the nofap bullshit there is on the internet. The people who support it claim that nofap is supported by science, but it isn't. It is based on bad interpretation of studies. Like the one about watching porn and that it shrinks the brain. That is just bad interpretation of a study that showed a correlation and not causation.

That study suggested that people who watched porn more than 20 hours per week, were statistically more likely to have less grey matter in certain areas of the brain. Watching porn is probably not the cause of this.

Here is a bit about what neuroscientist Dr. Nicole Prause said about it:

Both alcoholism and depression shrink the same brain areas that were found to be smaller in porn watchers in the current study. Depressed people are less likely to be in a relationship, and may therefore have fewer sexual opportunities in real life and more time on their hands to look at sexual content. In that instance, it may be the underlying depression, not the porn itself, altering the brain, Prause said.

But there are even some studies that suggest that masturbating might be healthy. Please, if you find a study that suggests otherwise, post it here.

Originally Posted by Forg

But there are even some studies that suggest that masturbating might be healthy. Please, if you find a study that suggests otherwise, post it here.

If you're not otherwise having sex with ejaculation, not masturbating puts you at greater risk of prostate problems.

Personal experience FWIW- When I've gone through periods of pretty good lucid dreaming in the past, I wasn't restricting my behavior in this area in any way (incl. porn). I spent some time restricting this behavior years ago after reading a yoga book , and it didn't contribute to any improvement as far as lucid dreaming goes.

After seeing references to this movement a few times on Dreamviews, I finally decided to look it up and have been reading various information off and on over the last couple of days. I was wondering if the lovely ladies I interact with in my LD's are strongly detrimental to me in some way.

From what I gather, the average person may have no concerns in this area but may notice some benefits. Keep in mind that the yourbrainonporn website does clarify in spots that it is a temporary "reboot" in order to change to more "healthy" ways of masturbating and ejaculating. This seems to cover concerns that not ejaculating passes up benefits to prostate health ( Does frequent ejaculation help ward off prostate cancer? - Harvard Prostate Knowledge - Harvard Health Publications ), since you may only be refraining from masturbation temporarily, and may be doing this while continuing to have sex. They encourage you to find what works for you (much like LD'ing).

The movement may be more important to someone with a porn or sex addiction, or someone that has signs of erectile dysfunction, but others seem to do it for the reported benefits. The yourbrainonporn site has over 1,800 testimonials.

Here is a bit about what neuroscientist Dr. Nicole Prause said about it: … But there are even some studies that suggest that masturbating might be healthy. Please, if you find a study that suggests otherwise, post it here.

I'm not sure how valid this is, but the yourbrainonporn site points to this study to refute Prause: http://www.mdpi.com/2076-328X/5/3/388/htm You can search "Prause" on the report, and then put "Prause" in the search box at yourbrainonporn to see other rebuttals. (Mastubation/ejaculation being healthy for prostate linked in 2nd paragraph of my post)

Just thought I would share what I learned, though I am by no means an expert! Feel free to correct, clarify or challenge anything above.

When do dreams usually start getting vivid? I just started, I'm on day 2 now, and last night I had a dream, but it wasn't any more vivid than normal.