@occipitalred
Thank you for the reply my friend.
unfortunetly im being misinterpreted again here,no i did not wish to achive insta-sleep or rem only sleep on demand,if you read carefully the example i wrote of how it would be,at no point in it did i have any intention of falling asleep,i bypassed sleep entirely,both realities were happening,in one i was inside a lucid dream,and in the other i was awake,relaxed,with my eyes closed,when you close your eyes 60% of your brain funcinality moves elsewhere (or at least thats what my guru says xD) wherever your attention resides,in this case it could be a lucid dream,and im sure 60% of my brain activity is more than enough to maintain a lucid dream experiance,
However,
what you suggest would work as well,insta-sleep and rem only sleep would yield just about exactly the same results,in fact,i belive them to be the same thing as i would persue with very minor differences,
and you may be confused about something here,i never had much problem with WILDing or DILDing , ,i've don't usualy have a week without at least 2-3 5-10 min long LD's and like i said 95% are WILDs,its rarely ever happend.and its not why im persuing this.but thats personal stuff it has nothing to do with our discussion here .
ok so in your suggestions to me its implied that how you would appraoch this,or how you would advice me to approach this,is to practice making sleep easier,but your making a detour here which isn't necessary,here is how i see it and here is how i would see the suggestions that were given :
Practice/Research sleep --> sleep easier --> have lucid dreaming experiance easier
this has few (-) points and 1 potentialy (+) points :
1-it could '*potentialy* be more consistent,but from what we can see as you said sageous for example even tough going trough certin sleep cycle related practices has not found a way to LD on demand,that means that we've alredy explored this route,and its proved to be inconvinent and hasn't born any considreble fruits
2-this is not infinite
3-putting your body into sleep could potentialy be a limit to what you can do in the dream world,for example if your doing something super exciting if your dream world experiance is connected to your now sleeping body,your heart rate my rise and you may wake up and lose the experiance,as opposed to having an alredy woke body that is limitless in its simontanious experiance,
4-you'd have to be in a certin metabolism to control your body the way you want so that you can then put it into a sleeping state,for example if your body is high in temperture,you will find it extreamly difficult to sleep,so your basically fighting against lots of physical odds here as opposed to bypassing them completely.
here is my version of your suggestion for you
find alternate on demand replacement for sleep --> have lucid dreaming experiance
only diffrence is,my version of it has three (+) points and one (-) point to it :
1-its infinite
2-its outside the box,and so it might not require a lot of time,practice,or etc,you might start trying to find a way and find a way from inside the dream by asking your dream guide or experimenting yourself this very day,and might even find it in the first try,how do you know if you've not tried before ?
3-its inconsistent,it will eighter work or not you'll never know if your getting somewhere or not
4-it would make more sense that if you want to find a way into something,it would be easier to do it from inside than outside
for example if your in a whole,you will very very easily see the light and find the entry to the hole,but if you were outside,it would be much harder to find a hole! (do your research in the dreaming world instead of the waking world)
@Ibeauty
thank you for the reply
'' to be honest, my dreaming and recall are a bit more on demand than what you are telling us here.'' is a very very bold thing to say,
does that mean that any time you wish you can just WILD regardless of wether your in REM or not and or wether your physically tired or relaxed enough to WILD? because if i could do that i would never spend any time on any fourms thats for sure. (not to mention thats what were all here trying to achive!)
on your second point,im not sure what your refering to when you say theres not enough information,on what exactly? because you followed it up with kundalini awakening possibly relating to my kundalini awakening which again has nothing to do with why i made this thread or what the purpose of this thread essentialy is,
yes i've gone trough kundalini awakening for the most part,yes it has side effects,yes insomnia is part of it,yes i've had problems WILDing because of it,but keep in my mind all these are temporary stuff,the side effects are not as severe as in your described article makes it to be,well as long as it doesn't happen to you without you being concious of it which was my case,i had the opposite of diarhea not sure what its called,my body would reject junk food,my hair loss stopped contrarary to what articles say would happen,i became aware of sensations other than pain which i became greately unaware of,my pupils dilated,and i was litteraly the exact same as when on marijuana for some 3 days in a row non-stop but i was fully aware and concious of my sorroundings as opposed to what happens when you consume drugs.
but again i don't see how this is relevant,as i said this has nothing to do with me having trouble lucid dreaming,you see if i wanted to have 2 LD's each day i could easily do two WILD's each day one with WBTB and one trough regular napping if i set myself up for it,and all it would take me would be to have protein only or vegan meals 2 meals a day and only do my medtation practices in the morning after having had the LD's so that it would not interfere with my sleep cycles,
i've actualy done this before,and had a period of having 2-3 WILD's and sometimes even 4 WILD's each day for 41 days (it just happend to be 41 days its not a special cycle or sth),i've had some 120 sucsessfull LD's (those that were stable and were prolonged and not just 30 second fails) and i have no problem LD'ing,
i made this thread so that i could LD infinetly at any situation at the spark of my will,
this doesn't mean im doing it because i can't normaly LD,i very much can,
i don't know how else i could clear this up...
finaly i might have gotten confused and wrote some unnecessary things about myself,please forgive me if thats the case(and skip *x* ) ,but i don't think kundalini awakening has anything to do with what were trying to achive here...or at least i find no connection for it.
*x* this kind of misunderstanding is not your fault by any means,its not mine eighter,i wanted to delete this thread and make a new one and i did make a new one with a clarified goal so as to not cause confusion,however the admin merged it,which was a bad idea,as i had miserebly failed to get trough to you what i actualy meant to achive by this thread in the initial thread.
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