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      Question Can i get some answer?

      I recently got my first "Lucid dream" after 19 days practicing RC and ADA habit, but because its the first time, it end prematurely, although i've tried to calm & focus, but when i realized im dreaming then reality checking my mosaic hands, my eyes start to be blurred, and when i rub my hands, i constantly awake, or actually got a false awakening. this is what i want to ask, in the beginning of false awakening, im not doing RC, indeed i tried to summon my friend to coming, but nobody coming. i want my friend come in that scene just in my feeling, not screaming. so, how do you usually do when you want something or somebody appear in the dream? is it screaming our desire is necessary to make the thing appear?

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      To summon a dc, I put my hand behind my back and wait for the dc to touch my hand. Most of the time, I only have to wait a second or two. If I'm trying to summon a specific DC, after the DC touches my hand, I like to ask if it is them in order to hear their voice to help with the expectation. If I don't feel a hand, I assume they are behind me somewhere.

      For pocket sized objects, I reach into my pocket for them while assuming they are there.

      For handheld objects, I blindly reach out to the side for the object while assuming that it is floating there for me to grab. Sometimes I need to reach out with two hands for larger handheld objects.

      For a bigger object that isn't handheld, I feel for them behind me while assuming it is there. Sometimes I use my foot if the object is on the ground.

      I hope this helps!
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      Wow, i've tried your method on my recent LD, and works perfectly, although my dream turn unstable after i almost touch the DC
      for object, i still failed to did it, when i tried to reach and see what inside my pocket after wishing a revolver and eyeglasses, everytime i saw my hands, my vision is blurred and feel like almost blackout, the dream became unstable, so i didnt continue to see what inside my pocket, and calm myself down to make my dream stable

      may i ask you another things? i succeed summoning a DC, but he was only like an object, just standing and say nothing, and when i walk & want to touch him, the blurred-and-almost-blackout happened again, is it supposed to be happened? or its just me that still a beginner so i cant controlled what im summoned, or do you have any tips to solve my issue?
      and can you see your own hands when you LD? i knew that it might looks in unusual shape, but can you keep continue your LD without encounter what happened to me? i want to explore anything that can be done in dream realm, hope you dont mind to answer my questions

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      What is happening in dreams is often a representation of what you think dreams will be. The whole thing is labeled as "lucid dreams" in your mind, and when you become lucid a whole host of new schema and ideas come into play. Things like "unstable" is because it doesn't seem like a stable thing, to be in a dream a dream and aware or that you think awareness is somehow a paradox of being inside a dream, so you don't think it works. Your dream characters being nothing more than NPCs with little or no programmed codes shows what you think of the dream in t respect. That the dream couldn't come up with a lifelike version of it, or that it is them, but it really isn't them and you pull up nothing. Not summoning the right thing could be your thinking that the dream is random, or that you have no control over what you summon. Change your mind and you change the dream.

      Usually this is actually done by people hitting a random amount of that seem to make them "now able to have emotions in dreams without making it unstable" or "summoning enough items that you have leveled up your item leveling system to be able to summon what you want"

      However you think it works can often be how it works when it comes to your brain. Here is a thread I made about dream control, I believe that dream control and stabilization are the same mechanism.
      http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-cont...ur-dreams.html

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      Ughh, your explanation is very "Sensei" -ish, and make my perception is also "lucid" about LD
      i think i get the point now, so LD is about perception and mind control, like when im about to summon a lifelike person, i should think the very detail of the person i want to summon, how they usually in act in my waking life, all memories i ever spent with them so they will comport and manifest as the real one, then after the DC is summoned on my dream, they will act and represent like the real person in my waking life, right?
      also with my hands, i should remember the detail of my hand, the color, the scars that still i had, then whenever i see my hands, the unusual shape would turn into the real shape of my hands, right?
      i very like your explanation on your tips to controlling dreams, it gave me some new point of perception about what actually happen in the dream, like you said instead you want to teleporting into another place, indeed you actually just shifting the visualization of scenery you see into the place you want to reach. that was awesome, and i cant wait my next LD to implement all of your tips, hope the 22 days practicing RC habit would bring me another LD soon

      I have another thing that bothering me now, i've recorded 35 dreams since 20 days ago in my personal DJ, and then i think im started to good for recalling my dream, untill yesterday, im started to cant recall any of my dream. i believe i had some dreams because i also implement the WBTB method, so at least i have 1-2 dreams each night, but since yesterday, i really cant remember any of it, no matter how hard to relax on my wake up and tried to remember my dreams, still doesnt works, although im a bit good at it several days ago. is it supposed to be something i worried about? im getting used to write down any dream i had on my DJ, and when i just can write "Remember Nothing", i dont know why, this is very frustrating for me

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      Kind of. Instead of trying to think of every detail or use all your mind energy, try just shifting your perspective. For instance your perspective that it is hard to summon realistic DCs. Changing your mindset is easier than being aware of everything. Just when you see the person in a dream, treat them like you would in waking, at least at first. Most people go on sex rampages with all the DCs they meet and then they wonder why all their DCs act like they aren't real.
      There is an easy way and hard way to most control. Try to open a universe in front of you that can't see you and all the people in it do their own thing whole you stay in one spot, does this seem hard? Why not just turn on the TV, control done! Lol. It isnt always about taking control, but a balance of what you want to control and what you don't.
      I really like controlling fire in a dream, and using my whole thought and energy into it and really feeling the whole of it, but if i am talking to a DC, I dont want to control the whole convo or I might as well just talk to myself, so I treat them like separate entities and they respond like it. I still have plenty of mindless DCs that wonder around, and the persistent people I have in dreams make fun of me for talking to them like equals sometimes.

      I recommend checking out this thread for some more help with some LDing things.
      http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamviews...e-told-me.html

      It talks about control and stability and recall, so maybe it can give you some more perspective.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
      "Most people go on sex rampages with all the DCs they meet"
      Hahahaah, actually it never get in my mind to do that, may be give it a try would be awesome
      im so inspired with your effort to bending a fire in your dream, so i have decided mine, and my grand goal of my LD is, make my own Shingeki no Kyojin version, and save the mankind from that attack of the evil titan

      anyway, thanks a lot sensei for all your reply and suggestion, wish to see you soon helping others the next time you end your hiatus
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      To summon a dc, I usually believe they'll behind a corner or through a door. Works practically 95% of the time depending on my level of lucidity and dream vividness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MadzAssassin View Post
      To summon a dc, I usually believe they'll behind a corner or through a door.
      Quote Originally Posted by dolphin View Post
      To summon a dc, I put my hand behind my back and wait for the dc to touch my hand. Most of the time, I only have to wait a second or two. If I'm trying to summon a specific DC, after the DC touches my hand, I like to ask if it is them in order to hear their voice to help with the expectation. If I don't feel a hand, I assume they are behind me somewhere.
      Well, it seems like summoning a DC from behind our position is the popular way to us for summoning a DC

      yes MadzAssassin, for the first time i tried to summon a DC, i had a difficult time to make the DC appear, but when Dolphin suggest me a method that similiar with yours, i finally succeed to summon him in the next time i got LD, but it looks odd because the DC wont do or say anything, then Sensei came to complement the technique to make DC looks very real

      i also want to practice more to summoning DC, because i have a goal to summon at least 25 specific DC and make my own dream movie
      but my recent 2 LD is very short, not even reach a minute each it. hope the next time i LD would last a bit longer, and start to practicing summon a lot of realistic DC

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      Dolphin, I'm going to try your technique to summon a person and object. I'm excited to try it!

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      When you dream something, you cannot control the behaviour of your brain.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Elamras9 View Post
      When you dream something, you cannot control the behaviour of your brain.
      Ofcourse i cant control my brain behaviour, or at least that far as i knew. but the LD is about control the dream right? and i've experienced 15 LD with intermediate dream control. so i dont need to able control my brain behaviour, because my goal is just to able controlling my dream

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